GordonS Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, betting competition said: Bit odd that they're only now putting out a poll that's a week old, three days before an election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 So going by that Poll the Greens list vote isnt higher? I thought all the polls were showing them getting more votes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow-sheep Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 So going by that Poll the Greens list vote isnt higher? I thought all the polls were showing them getting more votesChanges compared to previous poll not 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 It looks like all the Tory sleaze is affecting their support in the North East of England! [emoji848] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 It looks like all the Tory sleaze is affecting their support in the North East of England! [emoji848]Thats horrendously disappointing, unfortunately that's what you get when you put a champagne Knight of the realm in charge of the Labour Party. This seat should be a easy labour win but just like Scotland, Labour look increasingly finished south of border. Torys governments will be returned for the foreseeable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunfermline Don said: It looks like all the Tory sleaze is affecting their support in the North East of England! That's horrendous. I'm not sure this is anything to do with Starmer. England has moved to the right and I doubt if Corbyn would have fared much differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, HTG said: That's horrendous. I'm not sure this is anything to do with Starmer. England has moved to the right and I doubt if Corbyn would have fared much differently. It just demonstrates the problem of setting so many policies that impact on Scotland in a Westminster Parliament which is so difficult for Scotland's voters to influence. It used to be said that Trump could shoot someone in the face on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. These poll results suggest that BoJo could probably do something similar and still come up smelling of roses at an election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 That's horrendous. I'm not sure this is anything to do with Starmer. England has moved to the right and I doubt if Corbyn would have fared much differently. Didn't Corbyn led Labour hold the seat at the previous elections.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Tough for Starmer. Been leader for a year but there has only been one story in town - pandemic. He was doing well in the autumn with his "They were too slow into lockdown and too fast out of it". The incompetence line was gaining a lot of traction. Then vaccines come and blow him away. Voters give Johnson and his cabal of cretins all the credit for the vaccine. Starmer cannot say or do anything that will cut through like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) Two reasons Labour are haemorrhaging those votes: Paul Williams recanting his pro-milf beliefs and Starmer parachuting in Epstein associated Peter Mandelson for some reason. Imagine surviving something as hellish as an ICU visit with Covid only for that creep Lord Mandelson darkening your dark step and insisting you invite him inside. Bloodcurdling. Edited May 4, 2021 by NotThePars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Racist shite holes like Hartlepool which voted 70% to Brexit deserve the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Didn't Corbyn led Labour hold the seat at the previous elections.... He did, but if you add up the Tory and Brexit Party/UKIP votes in the previous General Elections they were much higher than Labour polled. The joys of the FPTP system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Starmer is pretty shit but honestly, Tony Blair would be painted as a commie in modern England. Corbyn held Hartlepool because the Brexit Party stood. If the KKK put up a candidate Labour would maybe stand a chance but when the biggest gammons are the Tories, they’ll stroll it. England is fucked. It’s in a state of permanent outrage about nothing, but when something like government incompetence killing thousands of its citizens comes along or the Prime Minister openly takes bribes, they shrug their shoulders. I have no idea how they come back from where they are. There is at least ten more years of hardline Tory government to come. Politics is cyclical and sooner or later, you’d imagine some shiny New Labour drone will make enough friends in the press that they’re palatable enough to get a go for a few years. But it won’t be any time soon. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Pato said: Starmer's forensic tactical genius: Pay enormous sums of money to the people in the whatsapp leaks who were expressing dismay at Labour doing well in 2017 Rehire those people Watch as they extirpate the left wing from the party & as a result their most dependable shoeleather campaigners Blame Corbyn for lacklustre performance → ∞ If Starmer rids the Labour Party of left wingers even if he loses the next GE to the Tories he will see that as a job well done. I will be interested to see the in house response if they do very badly at all the elections on Thursday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Racist shite holes like Hartlepool which voted 70% to Brexit deserve the Tories. yikes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunfermline Don said: It looks like all the Tory sleaze is affecting their support in the North East of England! Ind (Walker) is the Northern Independence Party candidate. Keeping their deposit would be a respectable showing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dunfermline Don said: He did, but if you add up the Tory and Brexit Party/UKIP votes in the previous General Elections they were much higher than Labour polled. The joys of the FPTP system. This isn’t true, at least not for 2017. In 2019, the Brexit Party stood to try and split the Labour vote, not the Tory vote. That’s why they stood down from contesting Tory-held constituencies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dunfermline Don said: He did, but if you add up the Tory and Brexit Party/UKIP votes in the previous General Elections they were much higher than Labour polled. The joys of the FPTP system. 5 minutes ago, G51 said: This isn’t true, at least not for 2017. In 2019, the Brexit Party stood to try and split the Labour vote, not the Tory vote. That’s why they stood down from contesting Tory-held constituencies. The combined UKIP/ Tory vote in 2015 was bigger than Labour's votes and yet Labour added 7000 more voters in 2017 and outstripped both parties combined tally by 2000 votes. Edited May 4, 2021 by NotThePars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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renton Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Stormzy said: Yeah. Of course, the two Sunday polls have more recent field work and show Yes at 50-52% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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