Blootoon87 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How many polls before there's a mandate according to the Unionists on here again? They move the goalposts so many times it's hard to keep track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How many polls before there's a mandate according to the Unionists on here again? They move the goalposts so many times it's hard to keep track.12.6 Bn 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How many polls before there's a mandate according to the Unionists on here again? They move the goalposts so many times it's hard to keep track. The same amount of imaginary pounds that is getting pumped in to the NHS after leaving the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How many polls before there's a mandate according to the Unionists on here again? They move the goalposts so many times it's hard to keep track.I reckon a landslide for independence supporting parties in May 2021 would make it unstoppable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I reckon a landslide for independence supporting parties in May 2021 would make it unstoppable.Let’s be candid: that is absolutely going to happen. I’m all for it being called after a landslide pro-indy majority. Brexit will have proper f’d us in the a by then as well. Like a jigsaw falling in to place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Let’s be candid: that is absolutely going to happen. I’m all for it being called after a landslide pro-indy majority. Brexit will have proper f’d us in the a by then as well. Like a jigsaw falling in to place. A lot will depend on what Labour does - if they start to openly split if an IndyRef2 goes ahead then I could see a significant number of soft No Labour voters moving over to Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 A lot will depend on what Labour does - if they start to openly split if an IndyRef2 goes ahead then I could see a significant number of soft No Labour voters moving over to Yes.I don't think they have a choice tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The actual Yes and No numbers aren't that important IMO it's the swings and movement. Yougov was a 7 pt swing and this latest one a 5 pt swing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 52% is heartening indeed and in the context of the trials and tribulations ahead, it's great news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Most are familiar with the SNP's 2016 election manifesto where it justified a call for another referendum if there was a 'significant and material change in the circumstances …such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will.' But they also claimed the right to hold another referendum if there was 'clear and sustained evidence that independence has become the preferred option of a majority of the Scottish people'. Looks like we're heading in that direction, too. Edited February 4, 2020 by Mr Heliums 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, oaksoft said: A bit too early for some of the excitement on here but for Yes, the polls are finally starting to show a shift in opinion. That shift needs to be consolidated and then grown over the next year at least. I agree with this. There is a slow shift to yes in the polls but until it's consistently 53/54 per cent no point getting too excited. I still think Boris will just keep refusing to transfer powers for a legal referendum anyway which leaves Nicola in a difficult position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If he refuses it after the SNP romp the 2021 elections, then there will be an almighty uproar. He should have gambled and let Nic have it Q4 of this year as we'd have probably voted No. Just delaying the inevitable now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If he refuses it after the SNP romp the 2021 elections, then there will be an almighty uproar. He should have gambled and let Nic have it Q4 of this year as we'd have probably voted No. Just delaying the inevitable now. They’ll assume that they can delay it indefinitely especially if that uproar doesn’t translate into anything tangible beyond a parliamentary majority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Spoiler - the latest ‘mandate’ that just can’t be ignored, will be ignored. Keep the faith and all that lads but you were mashing all this into the keyboard over Brexit too. Johnson will ignore it and there is absolutely nothing than can be done about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: They’ll assume that they can delay it indefinitely especially if that uproar doesn’t translate into anything tangible beyond a parliamentary majority. They may assume that. They may even try to carry it out but it's going to look horrifically colonial if that's the case. If a proportion of the remaining Labour vote moves across to Yes in the way that Unison has - even if only on the right to determine - then it's burst. The Tories in Scotland fought the last election (and the 4 before it) on a single issue. They got leathered. That's not sustainable. You can't carry on denying the will of a people without looking like a total c**t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Paco said: Spoiler - the latest ‘mandate’ that just can’t be ignored, will be ignored. Keep the faith and all that lads but you were mashing all this into the keyboard over Brexit too. Johnson will ignore it and there is absolutely nothing than can be done about it. No point in worrying about it anyway, we'll all be dead eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 mandates that even devout unionists will be doing backflips trying to explain. Most are familiar with the SNP's 2016 election manifesto where it justified a call for another referendum if one of two criterion were fulfilled, such as a 'significant and material change in the circumstances …such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will.' But they also claimed the right to hold another referendum if there was 'clear and sustained evidence that independence has become the preferred option of a majority of the Scottish people'. Looks like we're heading in that direction, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Paco said: Spoiler - the latest ‘mandate’ that just can’t be ignored, will be ignored. Keep the faith and all that lads but you were mashing all this into the keyboard over Brexit too. Johnson will ignore it and there is absolutely nothing than can be done about it. We can riot. But we won't, because we're a bunch of servile c***s who just accept any old shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Spoiler - the latest ‘mandate’ that just can’t be ignored, will be ignored. Keep the faith and all that lads but you were mashing all this into the keyboard over Brexit too. Johnson will ignore it and there is absolutely nothing than can be done about it. If the 2021 SE is ran on mandate of independence with a few positive snipets from Europe and independence parties get over 50% he can't ignore it. If he did, and there is no overwhelming peaceful protests on the streets we really are craven shitebags 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There isn't a single mandate that won't be ignored. Elections as well. Westminster are never going to hand a referendum over. I think Sturgeon knows this, and expects to be taking it to court afterwards. I don't think she'd have even mentioned it if she didn't, let alone say it was a possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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