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On 06/12/2019 at 20:23, fatshaft said:

I've been on the doors in Aberdeenshire, I work, so only managed 4 days unlike the retired door chappers, but I literally, and I mean literally, haven't had anybody tell me they were voting Labour. They are finished up here, not that they ever had much rural vote anyway, but what they had has disappeared totally. 

Found me second Labour voter in Broadstraik/Elrick yesterday, he's probably voting SNP to keep Bowie out, he may abstain though as his late father would birl in his grave if he doesn't vote Labour. 

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21 hours ago, Ralstonite said:

She's secretly hoping Boris wins with a landslide and Brexit is a disaster!

The fact is that most Scots are frightened of dissolving the Union because ultimately we know that we're better off financially with the current system. People will vote according to their wallets and not their principles.

We "know" the exact opposite, but too many have been brainwashed by the 99% of MSM outlets who peddle this pish. 

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"I don't like the cut of this Boris character's jib. Nigel Farage and Ann Widdecombe seem like the kind of sound minds Britain needs to marshall the helm at this point in history."

Somebody has actually thought this, and has done so unironically. The British public never fail to amaze.

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"I don't like the cut of this Boris character's jib. Nigel Farage and Ann Widdecombe seem like the kind of sound minds Britain needs to marshall the helm at this point in history."
Somebody has actually thought this, and has done so unironically. The British public never fail to amaze.


It seems to amaze a number of people on this forum that Jeremy Corbyn might not be the leader we want in parliament. It’s almost as if other opinions exist.

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4 hours ago, doulikefish said:

 

There appear to be two sets of Comres numbers out this weekend. Those are for a poll commissioned by a group called Remain United, while another for the Torygraph with more recent sampling on 4-5 Dec has:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_United_Kingdom_general_election#2019

Con 41 Lab 33  LibDem 12 SNP 4 Green 3 Brexit 2 Plaid 1

 

 

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Latest Scotland only poll numbers from Panelbase. SNP 39 Tories 29 Lab 21 LDem 10.
Panelbase are notoriously wrong when it comes to Scotland - they assume a uniform swing when that clearly isn't the case.

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Tbh, I'd take anything in excess of 40 seats for SNP


Any gain for SNP and losses for the Branch Office Conservative and Unionist Party is a success.

Not many Unionists talking about this tonight.

I wonder why.

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7 hours ago, G-MAN said:

 


Any gain for SNP and losses for the Branch Office Conservative and Unionist Party is a success.

Not many Unionists talking about this tonight.

I wonder why.

 

 

 

 

 

Because it's too early to draw any meaningful conclusion from it, it's a single poll, Brexit hasn't happened yet and it's also a boring number because within a reasonable margin of error there has been no significant breakthrough for Yes in more than 5 years - despite everything which has happened since 2014. The only positive for Yes, and in fairness it's a big one, is that support for Independence hasn't dropped in those 5 years. That is pretty surprising and most unlike what happened in Quebec. If I was advising Sturgeon I'd suggest that it's too early to be actively wanting a referendum in 2020. 2025 to 2030 after Brexit has settled down and we can see what, if any, damage has been done, would put the SNP in a much better position to get a favourable result. Impatience is going to derail the entire process IMO.

That number needs to rise to mid-50s at the absolute minimum and it needs to stay there resolutely for several months. At that point it's worth discussing. Hard to imagine that happening before 2025.

We've been here before only to see it swing back to 51% No at the next and subsequent polls.

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