Tibbermoresaint Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: The Guardian: Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/brexit-party-nigel-farage-lead-opinion-poll-conservatives-opinium It must be obvious within both Labour and Conservatives that whichever one is first to commit to Remain will sweep the board. So who will crack first? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: It must be obvious within both Labour and Conservatives that whichever one is first to commit to Remain will sweep the board. So who will crack first? It's impossible to think that the Tories will become a remain supporting party. Impossible. That leaves Labour. A party that is generally pro-remain, but with a bumbling, incompetent, ideological fuckwit as leader. It's enough to drive any sane person in England into the arms of the Lib Dems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: It's impossible to think that the Tories will become a remain supporting party. Impossible. That leaves Labour. A party that is generally pro-remain, but with a bumbling, incompetent, ideological fuckwit as leader. It's enough to drive any sane person in England into the arms of the Lib Dems. Until a couple of decades ago it would have been impossible to think the Tories would become a Leave supporting party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It's impossible to think that the Tories will become a remain supporting party. Impossible. That leaves Labour. A party that is generally pro-remain, but with a bumbling, incompetent, ideological fuckwit as leader. It's enough to drive any sane person in England into the arms of the Lib Dems. I agree on Corbyn but I cannot think of a single Labour MP who has leadership qualities, even if a putsch was initiated. They really are in an abysmal state. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 8 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 8 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: It's impossible to think that the Tories will become a remain supporting party. Impossible. That leaves Labour. A party that is generally pro-remain, but with a bumbling, incompetent, ideological fuckwit as leader. It's enough to drive any sane person in England into the arms of the Lib Dems. I agree on Corbyn but I cannot think of a single Labour MP who has leadership qualities, even if a putsch was initiated. They really are in an abysmal state. Clive Lewis? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Clive Lewis?Ticks all the boxes in terms of his voting record and position on the shadow cabinet, and the fact he looks a bit like Gustavo Fring from Breaking Bad certainly wouldn’t do any harm in both increasing his profile and marking him out as a bad ass.Only concern would be the sexual assault allegations being dug up. Even with him being cleared, it could definitely do some harm. A better choice than most though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Clive Lewis?Possibly, or Starmer at a push, but neither are what you would call inspirational.And it is tragic where Labour is concerned, as rUK is squaring for a contest between two pop-up parties filled by utter no-mark representatives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 Possibly, or Starmer at a push, but neither are what you would call inspirational.And it is tragic where Labour is concerned, as rUK is squaring for a contest between two pop-up parties filled by utter no-mark representatives.Starmer is too cardboard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Possibly, or Starmer at a push, but neither are what you would call inspirational. And it is tragic where Labour is concerned, as rUK is squaring for a contest between two pop-up parties filled by utter no-mark representatives. I agree with Starmer on Brexit and he’s a capable guy but far too right wing and will never get support from today’s Labour Party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Yvette Cooper's the most competent but she's no chance with her Blairite baggage and unfortunate choice in men. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 15 hours ago, Tibbermoresaint said: It must be obvious within both Labour and Conservatives that whichever one is first to commit to Remain will sweep the board. So who will crack first? This isn't "obvious" at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, DrewDon said: This isn't "obvious" at all. No it’s not. A Remain supporting Tory won’t get very far (though it’s a debate they need to have in their own party, but that’s a different matter). A Remain supporting Labour Party would, however, be realigning itself with the overwhelming majority of its members and voters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 No it’s not. A Remain supporting Tory won’t get very far (though it’s a debate they need to have in their own party, but that’s a different matter). A Remain supporting Labour Party would, however, be realigning itself with the overwhelming majority of its members and voters. Spot on GD. For both parties to survive one must go hard leave and the other hard remain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Electoral Calculus current prediction: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Well that’s interesting, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 Electoral Calculus current prediction:Change UK doing well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 The Brexit party, DUP & Tories coalition of Chaos then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 The Brexit party, DUP & Tories coalition of Chaos then?Not enough numbers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Tories having to take their spot behind the SNP at PMQs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 In that (unlikely) scenario the SNP would have to play hardball. Threaten to abstain on key issues and follow through on the threats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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