Clown Job Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: There’s no way the SNP would lose seats nor would they have fewer seats than the Lib Dems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, dorlomin said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Strangely, I don't remember the MSM press picking up on this recent Ipsos poll... All tables available here: https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2022-11/public-attitudes-across-the-union-ipsos-knowledgepanel-uk-tables.pdf Fieldwork dates: 13th October - 19th October 2022 Respondent type: KnowledgePanel Members - UK, 16+ Scottish voters only I would prefer Scotland to vote against leaving the UK and becoming an independent country - 43% Don't mind either way - 4% I would prefer Scotland to vote for leaving the UK and becoming an independent country 50% Don't know - 2% With undecideds and those who aren't bothered stripped out, that works out as 54% in favour of independence and 46% opposed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 How many fucking times? THERE IS NO APPETITE FOR ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR DEVISIVE NEVERENDUMS, NICOLIAR! Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 When should we expect the answer from the supreme Court regarding the referendum powers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: When should we expect the answer from the supreme Court regarding the referendum powers? Thursday this week I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: When should we expect the answer from the supreme Court regarding the referendum powers? 50 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Thursday this week I think. ^^^ incorrect The correct answer is Wednesday November 23 at 9.45am and the civic space is for the gracious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Post Supreme Court decision bump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 With the current 'situation', it still needs the SNP and the Greens to poll over 50% collectively at the GE though. Current polls, SNP on 41% and Greens on 2%. Yes 49 v No 45 is obviously only 'in play' in circumstances where there is a straight choice Referendum. 2 years is a long time to wait. I would still expect the Labour vote in Scotland to move up slightly from 31% in a GE they look like winning (assuming that is still the case then). If it did, the SNP would have to hoover up a lot of disaffected Lib Dems to get up closer to the 50% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Jedi said: With the current 'situation', it still needs the SNP and the Greens to poll over 50% collectively at the GE though. Current polls, SNP on 41% and Greens on 2%. Yes 49 v No 45 is obviously only 'in play' in circumstances where there is a straight choice Referendum. 2 years is a long time to wait. I would still expect the Labour vote in Scotland to move up slightly from 31% in a GE they look like winning (assuming that is still the case then). If it did, the SNP would have to hoover up a lot of disaffected Lib Dems to get up closer to the 50% No, if it shows anything it is that the idea of using a de facto referendum doesn't have cut through to the general public yet. However (within a theoretical time frame not long from now) there would be potential to get that 50% if you could connect the current pro- Indy vote with the SNP GE as referendum idea. More than that though, it simply shows what happens when you tell people they can't do something that they always assumed was within their rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 The Tories got 30% of the vote in 1997. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The Tories got 30% of the vote in 1997. Will this Reform U.K. bunch have the money to stand in all constituencies? Will they want to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, Granny Danger said: Will this Reform U.K. bunch have the money to stand in all constituencies? Will they want to? I’ve honestly no idea. They do tend to have quite a bit of cash from donors so maybe they will. UKIP and the Brexit party both won seats in Scotland in European elections but can’t see them winning a deposit anywhere in a General Election. The Scottish GE poll had them on 2%. A Tory MSP, Michelle Ballantyne, defected to them just before the end of the 2016-2021 Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The Tories got 30% of the vote in 1997. I still think Starmer and co will blow this. The Tories will find a way to rebrand and people will vote for the full fat Tories rather than the diet ones. It's a depressing thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I’ve honestly no idea. They do tend to have quite a bit of cash from donors so maybe they will. UKIP and the Brexit party both won seats in Scotland in European elections but can’t see them winning a deposit anywhere in a General Election. The Scottish GE poll had them on 2%. A Tory MSP, Michelle Ballantyne, defected to them just before the end of the 2016-2021 Parliament. The predictions of the Tories only holding on to a double digit number of seats at the next GE seems far fetched. The one thing that can make it a reality is disaffected hardline Tories switching to a populist option. Whilst it might be funny at the time, looking at countries like France this would have limited appeal in the longer term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The predictions of the Tories only holding on to a double digit number of seats at the next GE seems far fetched. The one thing that can make it a reality is disaffected hardline Tories switching to a populist option. Whilst it might be funny at the time, looking at countries like France this would have limited appeal in the longer term. I agree. We won't see a Canada style wipeout, funny as that would be. The question is - what size of majority would Labour have? If it were held today, over 100. By the time the election comes, who knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) A wipeout of the Tories that some polls have indicated also requires the Lib Dems to do well in certain parts of England. Nationally they remain in the gutter, so I imagine a lot of MPs that are notionally at risk from the Lib Dems will hang on. A loss of 200 is probably their worst case. There are of course other factors at play, too. The Lib Dems now have control of the council here (the daft system of 1/3 of the council seats up for election three years out of four saved the Tories from being obliterated) and they are well on their way to making sure a winnable seat escapes them by pissing everyone off. Edited December 1, 2022 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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