Polling: 2017 General Election, Council Elections and Independence

[Bonksy+HisChristianParade]

3 hours ago, Malky3 said:

Aye, well what I meant was that the growth figures suggested that business in general was still growing and doing well, but yeah I agree with you in that once it's settled a lot of the held back investment will come forward. Stability is what the country needs

 

What are you basing your claim of ‘business in general is doing well’ on? I’m not having a snipe at you, genuinely interested in your sources. Productivity and real wages still not reached 2008 levels. UK economy grown this year at it’s slowest rate for a decade with a contraction in the second quarter this year and narrowly avoiding recession in the third quarter.

Purely anecdotal, but I wouldn’t say any of the companies I’ve worked at over the past few years have been positive about the impact of Brexit - ranging from SMEs, to larger multinational firms. I think it’s a bit naive to assume that post-Brexit everything will go back to normal. Several larger companies I’ve worked with have set up subsidiaries in other EU-member states, with the implication being that they will invest in these and reduce activity in Scotland post-Brexit, should it be a negative outcome. Companies with a high proportion of EU suppliers have been incredibly negative about the impact Brexit will have on tariffs and what this will do to profit margins. Other companies have built up a large excess of stock in preparation. Other companies have been fearful regarding how it will affect their workforce, being employers with a majority of Eastern and Central European workers.

I just get the impression that it’s slightly disingenuous to suggest that all the investment held back will just ‘come forward’ after Brexit. Maybe you’re better informed though.

[The_Kincardine]

16 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

How many years have you been living in the home counties? You sound like Sean Connery backing the SNP from the Caribbean. 

Shome mistake...

[Malky3]

4 hours ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

What are you basing your claim of ‘business in general is doing well’ on? I’m not having a snipe at you, genuinely interested in your sources. Productivity and real wages still not reached 2008 levels. UK economy grown this year at it’s slowest rate for a decade with a contraction in the second quarter this year and narrowly avoiding recession in the third quarter.

Purely anecdotal, but I wouldn’t say any of the companies I’ve worked at over the past few years have been positive about the impact of Brexit - ranging from SMEs, to larger multinational firms. I think it’s a bit naive to assume that post-Brexit everything will go back to normal. Several larger companies I’ve worked with have set up subsidiaries in other EU-member states, with the implication being that they will invest in these and reduce activity in Scotland post-Brexit, should it be a negative outcome. Companies with a high proportion of EU suppliers have been incredibly negative about the impact Brexit will have on tariffs and what this will do to profit margins. Other companies have built up a large excess of stock in preparation. Other companies have been fearful regarding how it will affect their workforce, being employers with a majority of Eastern and Central European workers.

I just get the impression that it’s slightly disingenuous to suggest that all the investment held back will just ‘come forward’ after Brexit. Maybe you’re better informed though.

Goldman Sachs have been telling their global investors to buy shares in UK companies because it believes that after the election - so long as either Labour or Conservative wins a majority, that ensuing stability will provide a boost to the UK economy. 

 

 

 

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

2 hours ago, Malky3 said:

Goldman Sachs have been telling their global investors to buy shares in UK companies because it believes that after the election - so long as either Labour or Conservative wins a majority, that ensuing stability will provide a boost to the UK economy. 

 

 

 

f**k me.

That's only because we've had over 3 years of Tory-led chaos that has shrunk inward investment and productivity.  Anything would be an improvement on the disaster of the last few years, and nobody....least of all anyone connected with the Tories....should be patting themselves on the back because this election may or may not bring 'stability'.

We're years, and 10's of billions, behind where we should be. That's the Tory legacy for you. 

[Fullerene]

9 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

f**k me.

That's only because we've had over 3 years of Tory-led chaos that has shrunk inward investment and productivity.  Anything would be an improvement on the disaster of the last few years, and nobody....least of all anyone connected with the Tories....should be patting themselves on the back because this election may or may not bring 'stability'.

We're years, and 10's of billions, behind where we should be. That's the Tory legacy for you. 

The Kobe earthquake of 1995 provided a boost to the Japanese economy.

[speckled tangerine]

7 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

 

We're years, and 10's of billions, behind where we should be. That's the Tory legacy for you. 

https://www.gov.scot/news/discretionary-housing-payments-8/

Here's another legacy of the Tories here in a document published yesterday. The Scottish Government have paid out £59.1 million this year to September in Discretionary Housing Payments to mitigate the spare room subsidy (bedroom tax). 

This has therefore prevented those on benefits, mainly Universal Credit accruing housing debts and potentially losing their tenancies. 

That is a choice the Scottish Government has made to help people in Scotland in desperate situations.

Pick a side. If you vote Tory then you absolutely do not give one f**k.

 

[John Lambies Doos]

 
Is that a Confederate flag in your avi?

Yes, it appears he does have a Confederate flag on his Avi. Up there with face blackening imo.

[BFTD]

Hendo providing a solid page of unadulterated pornography for Malksoft to drool over! Finally, a government willing to put those lazy paupers in their place! If only they'd follow his advice and provide some proper austerity, eh?

[BFTD]

Yes, it appears he does have a Confederate flag on his Avi. Up there with face blackening imo.

I was familiar with the pathetic Israel/Palestine flegstravaganza that the weegies have had going on, but Union/Confederacy is a new one on me.

Do the KKK have a fleg? One side of these roasters should choose the fleg of their mortal enemy and see if the others are daft enough to rise to the bait.

[thisal]

14 hours ago, TONTROOPER said:

How about the electorate being fed a litany of lies by Vote Leave? (Big fat lie on a big fat red bus)…..is that a valid excuse?

9 hours ago, Malky3 said:

The funny thing about that bus was that the figure wasn't a big fat lie. That is how much the UK paid to the EU every week just for membership of the club. Where they obscured the truth was that they didn't factor in the rebate that the UK gets back from the EU in their figures.

 

I love politics. You say it wasn't a big fat lie. Then explain why it is in fact a big fat lie.

Inflation has gone mental I paid £20 for a loaf this morning. gave the man £20 note and got £19 change. Shocking could have got nice meal for that.

Edited November 27, 2019 by thisal

[AUFC90]

I understand you perfectly then.

If you don’t understand that this statement is clearly anti-Semitic, then it’s no wonder that you don’t understand the Labour party’s problem.

Pish.

[welshbairn]

2 hours ago, thisal said:

I love politics. You say it wasn't a big fat lie. Then explain why it is in fact a big fat lie.

Inflation has gone mental I paid £20 for a loaf this morning. gave the man £20 note and got £19 change. Shocking could have got nice meal for that.

And the rebate isn't paid back by the EU, that would be silly, it's not paid at all. It was a barefaced lie.

[NotThePars]

I was familiar with the pathetic Israel/Palestine flegstravaganza that the weegies have had going on, but Union/Confederacy is a new one on me.

Do the KKK have a fleg? One side of these roasters should choose the fleg of their mortal enemy and see if the others are daft enough to rise to the bait.

Ignoring the foghorn racial connotations of the confederate flag, it’s weird that the forum’s resident unionist would proudly sport the flag of a separatist movement.

[Kyle]

5 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

 

Ignoring the foghorn racial connotations of the confederate flag, it’s weird that the forum’s resident unionist would proudly sport the flag of a separatist movement.

 

My exact thoughts as well. A strange flag to select for a stauncher. 

[AUFC90]

Yeah, I have to be honest I have never understood the continual references to austerity over the last decade because we have continued to borrow beyond our means every year since the crunch. That's not austerity FFS.

What ? [emoji23] All that quantitive easing wasn't invested in the economy.

It should have been.

[Baxter Parp]

NEW @IpsosMORI Leader favourability ratings out today.

- 50% now unfavourable towards Jo Swinson. Up 9 points in a week.

- Some sense of Johnson's favourables falling slightly

- Corbyn numbers still poor. 59% unfavourable.

/ THREAD https://t.co/n6U6RKwHKS

[Anonapersona]

4 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:

12 hours ago, NotThePars said:

 
Is that a Confederate flag in your avi?

Yes, it appears he does have a Confederate flag on his Avi. Up there with face blackening imo.

Confederate flags are becoming increasingly taboo in the States. Bit shocked to see someone on here use one. Must be a tory thing.

[johnnydun]

12 hours ago, alta-pete said:

Now, just to clarify - do you mean Scots that reside in Scotland or Scots generally?

So is it only Scots that live in Scotland that are entitled to vote on the future of the country or Scots that are pyoor-bred but happen to be away overseas at the time of the vote get a postal or be denied?

Or those that arrived here and grew up as and identify as Scots but can prove nothing more than that should be included or denied?

Ooft. Mind blown as to where you draw your lines. I reckon Registered to Vote in the constituency = entitled to a valid vote. Other opinions are of course welcome.

I was not talking about entitlement to vote.

I agree that those who are registered to vote in Scotland should be able to vote in an Indy ref, not all of these people are Scottish though. 

Unlike the Brexit vote, where the Government got to pick who voted and who didn't (EU nationals here- not allowed to vote, Ex pats overseas- allowed to vote), I would like a fair vote.

[John Lambies Doos]

Confederate flags are becoming increasingly taboo in the States. Bit shocked to see someone on here use one. Must be a tory thing.

Tory/colonial thing imo. Surprised it's not being banned by the mods.....

[Kyle]

57 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

NEW @IpsosMORI Leader favourability ratings out today.

- 50% now unfavourable towards Jo Swinson. Up 9 points in a week.

- Some sense of Johnson's favourables falling slightly

- Corbyn numbers still poor. 59% unfavourable.

/ THREAD https://t.co/n6U6RKwHKS

Swinson almost as unpopular as Corbyn. It's incredible just how shit a leader she is.