ICTJohnboy Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Malky3 said: Delighted to see the war memorial vandals soundly beaten. It was probably the Lib Dems that did that. Carmichael's employed dirty tricks against the SNP in the past. Remember this? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/22/lib-dem-alistair-carmichael-admits-responsibility-anti-sturgeon-leak-mp-snp-leader-david-cameron 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Whn the dust settles this will be seen as a decent SNP performance in what was always going to be a difficult seat to win; Shetalnd is hardly a typical Scottish constituency yet they still managed considerable forward momentum, a point which will not be lost on the Unionists, whatever they may claim in public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 No surprises in East Kilbride. SNP vote up 4.2% is encouraging though. EDITED TO ADD: 63.4% for explicitly remain supporting parties isn't too shabby either Labour vote collapsing.[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Labour vote collapsing.[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]Just switching to the Liberal Undemocrats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dorlomin Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Post prorogation announcement and there is a poll boost for the tories Survation usually have the best results for Labour due to the way they poll for the Greens. There best pm poll might cause a few bottom lips to tremble. Edited August 31, 2019 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Maybot (remember her) had a snap election on polling numbers [emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 Maybot (remember her) had a snap election on polling numbers [emoji6]Her personality and dementia tax fucked that Election. Sadly Boris has charisma and would probably walk an election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Looks on the surface like a recipe for a general election called in October allowing the clock to run down during the campaign. At that point the Brexit party loses its reason to exist and their voters swing mainly to the Tories with the likely outcome being a large Tory majority (involuntary shudder). Fly in the ointment for Boris though is how the electorate would react to chaos in the supermarket delivery chain in the aftermath of a hard Brexit. Any society is only a couple of missed meals away from severe civil unrest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Looks on the surface like a recipe for a general election called in October allowing the clock to run down during the campaign. At that point the Brexit party loses its reason to exist and their voters swing mainly to the Tories with the likely outcome being a large Tory majority (involuntary shudder). Fly in the ointment for Boris though is how the electorate would react to chaos in the supermarket delivery chain in the aftermath of a hard Brexit. Any society is only a couple of missed meals away from severe civil unrest.Not just the supermarkets. Remember how close to chaos the fuel dispute almost came with panic buying and queues at petrol stations. Also witness how quick the shelves empty of bread and milk if we have a few days of snow. For anyone looking to see how quick civilised society can break down read ‘Last Light’ by Alex Scarrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dunfermline Don said: For anyone looking to see how quick civilised society can break down read ‘Last Light’ by Alex Scarrow. Quote Alex Scarrow used to be a rock guitarist in a band, spending ten years after college in the music business. He eventually figured that he would never become famous nor get a record deal. He left the music industry in order to become a graphic artist and then he decided to be a computer games designer. He worked on game titles[2] such as Waterworld, Evolva, The Thing, Spartan, Gates of Troy, Legion Arena, and Ultimate Soccer Manager.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Scarrow Its literally going to be Hunger Games and Maze Runner post Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 Looks on the surface like a recipe for a general election called in October allowing the clock to run down during the campaign. At that point the Brexit party loses its reason to exist and their voters swing mainly to the Tories with the likely outcome being a large Tory majority (involuntary shudder). Fly in the ointment for Boris though is how the electorate would react to chaos in the supermarket delivery chain in the aftermath of a hard Brexit. Any society is only a couple of missed meals away from severe civil unrest.Then the backstop moves to the Irish sea. No DUP needed, and there is your deal. This is what BJ wants 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I know you are always keen on finding a rapid UI scenario in everything, but don't follow the logic on this one given there is no sign that Boris wants to ditch the DUP and there are only a couple of months left now. Leave it to Boris and the DUP to secure a hard Brexit and a hard border when the EU refuse to budge on the backstop over the next few weeks and there could finally be a rational argument for it that will persuade significant numbers of people from a moderate Unionist background. A lot will depend on just how bad the economic hit will be that the RoI takes on how the rational pragmatic portion of the electorate views things moving forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) FTA means Boris will find it hard to run down the clock during an election unless he loses a VONC. Even then the suggestion that he can block a new government and force an election by not going to the Queen seems far fetched. I doubt the Palace would go along with that. Edited August 31, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 FTA means Boris will find it hard to run down the clock during an election unless he loses a VONC. Even then the suggestion that he can block a new government and force an election by not going to the Queen seems far fetched. I doubt the Palace would go along with that.The Palace would do as it's told 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Here are the latest polls from the 6 major polling companies. via @DeltapollUK, 29 - 31 Aug CON: 35% (+5) LAB: 24% (-1) LDEM: 18% (-) BREX: 14% (91%) via @Survation, 29 - 30 Aug CON: 31% (+3) LAB; 24% (-) LDEM: 21% (-) BREX: 14% (-1) (90%) via @YouGov, 28 - 29 Aug CON: 33% (-1) LAB; 22% (-) LDEM: 21% (+4) BREX: 12% (-1) GRN: 7% (-1) (95%) via @OpiniumResearch, 21 - 23 Aug CON: 32% (+1) LAB: 26% (-2) BREX: 16% (-) LDEM: 15% (+2) GRN: 4% (-1) (93%) via @KantarTNS, 15 - 19 Aug CON: 42% (+17) LAB: 28% (-6) LDEM: 15% (-) BREX: 5% (-5) GRN: 3% (-) TIG/CHUK: 1% (-) UKIP: 0% (-4) (94%) via @BMGResearch (pre 18 August) CON: 31% (+3) LAB: 25% (-2) LDEM: 19% (+1) BREX: 12% (-2) (87%) The trend is pretty clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dorlomin said: The trend is pretty clear. Independence it is then, by any means necessary. If the "unwritten constitution" of convention can be thrown out the door when convenient down south, I don't see why we shouldn't do the same. Edited September 1, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenanover Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Independence it is then, by any means necessary. If the "unwritten constitution" of convention can be thrown out the door when convenient down south, I don't see why we shouldn't do the same. No, over half the population do not want it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Here is the polls in the run up to the 2016 election. The trend was even clearer then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Here is the polls in the run up to the 2016 election. Jesus wept get the year right. 13% in the European Parliamentary Elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_European_Parliament_election_in_the_United_Kingdom He also lost significant vote share in the recent local government elections. You are begging us to believe that in an election the Tories will be as awful as May, but also that that had no bearing on the outcome in 2017 and it was all down to the magnetic charm of your man-chrush that turned the voters on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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