Hedgecutter Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, pogo1910 said: Have i have a second series? Yeah, give her a second series you s**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 How much did Labour actually increase their vote share in Scotland? To what extent is it increased Labour votes rather than a collapse in the SNP vote? Some Labour voters went to Tory and some SNP voters went to Labour it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Fantastic night for Labour, now we need a complete reform of the Scottish branch and get them singing from the same sheet as Corbyn. I'd expect more gains for Labour in a hypothetical autumn election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Paco said: The SNP for now at least are a footnote in this election, however. Main story is May's incompetence, the government being propped up by genuine lunatics... Back in 2007 a lot of people assumed Holyrood would implode because the SNP were taking control, because they genuinely believed rhetoric like that. The DUP's Westminster contingent are reasonably talented professional politicians. The oddballs such as Edwin Poots and Jim Wells that you hear about on throwback comments about creationism and homophobia tend to be at Stormont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Is there any chance Sinn Fein would be tempted to take their seats in order to make things trickier for the DUP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, jmothecat said: Is there any chance Sinn Fein would be tempted to take their seats in order to make things trickier for the DUP? Was asking that earlier as well. The numbers balance doesn't change even if they do? That maybe takes away the motivation for now. A couple of by-elections going against the Tories and who knows though, if it would make a tangible difference to what happens in NI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 A poor result for the SNP; but better to take a scalp here - and hopefully learn some lessons for the future - rather than that gobshite Davidson being FM in a Holyrood election. Whilst a poor vote share for the SNP. Let's see how Brexit and the economy goes, and those teuchter voting Tories may not be so happy to vote for them in five years time - if the Tories last five years in govt. Whilst there can be no polishing of a turd and it's a disappointing result (anything under 40 seats was always going to be) they still have more seats than the Unionist parties put together! The worry for the SNP though has to be an early election in Sept/October and losing those tiny majorities. Then again, depending on the behaviour of both the Tories and the SNP maybe the likes of Eck (if he stood), Robertson would win back their seats by a motivated Yes/SNP/anti-Tory vote? Nae idea, but let's see what happens. One thing - May is absolutely deluded. Her speech today was probably the same one she had penned for winning a 50-100 seat majority! This is a honking result for them. She called an election at an opportunistic time when the media, polls and UK politics (Brexit) were all at a high. She had a 30% lead 6 weeks ago, and ended up winning by 2-3% She's shite, a liablity and more than likely will end up with a vote of no confidence at some point. I don't want another election so soon as I'd be fearful for more SNP losses ; but she'll not survive five years, and the more central/pro Euro/Liberal Tories won't be so easily led to follow the whip in key votes. There really should be a cross-party Brexit coalition though. Scotland whilst suffering losses, still voted for the SNP as their main party ; NI is split and even more divided than before with the softer UUP and SDLP gone ; Wales voted Labour ; and the Tories lost more seats than expected in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, jmothecat said: Is there any chance Sinn Fein would be tempted to take their seats in order to make things trickier for the DUP? Gerry Adams was pretty emphatic there will be no change in policy from SF regardless of the political landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 To me, 38% SNP vote is brilliant considering the amount of Yes voters I know that went for Labour yesterday. I don't feel appetite for IndyRef2 has changed at all. Dear god ! You people are doing the Nats no favours.How many Nats need to go before the alarm bells start ringing in your fantasy world ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Craig Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Your minging party has been routed and has to get into bed with catholic hating fascists in order to have some semblance of power. Get in the bin. Hahaha Tories have the most seats by some margin once again, bit of a helping hand from The DUP lovely jubbly. That's what happens when you've got a leader who was against Brexit, if it wasn't for the lost UKIP vote it'd still a majority but easily fixed and still laughing, great Tory resurgence in this part of the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sinn Fein press conference announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 State of Scotland. f**k sake, voting Conservatives as if they actually give a f**k about Scotland and as if they would do anything to help people in Scotland, or indeed in any part of the UK, except their rich banker pals etc. Do people really hate other people who move here from another country so much (a roundabout way of saying immigrants, but I don't like to classify human beings based on them moving somewhere)? Are people so genuinely stupid as to blindly believe the shite they are told? Are folk so stunningly servile and craven that they are desperate to cling on to a long failed 'Union' that, from the very beginning, was a fucking sham anyway? The Conservatives are led by a despicable cuntress and are a gaggle of scum who gosh and blunder around like it's a jolly old fucking jape, and to them it is, as they stroll around burning money with their banker chums, whilst in reality people are suffering and they just don't care. They simply don't care. Add to that vile scum like the old racist Boris Johnston and you have a truly abhorrent shower of shits. And up here we have a moon faced fud who just cries about people daring to have a say in how they govern themselves, but if it benefited her financially would absolutely support independence. c***s. Labour can get to f**k as well. Aye, folk are wanking over Corbyn, but he still heads a party of absolute b*****ds and liars, most of whom are utter sell outs and just as bad as their Conservative counterparts. This includes Scottish Labour who gladly prance hand in hand with the Conservatives to stop people having the right to have a fair say when it comes to their governance. The Labour party are pretending to like Corbyn, but I bet the vast majority would stab him in the back, side and front (metaphorically) the first chance they got. A fucking hive of shady snake c***s. At least the Conservatives are openly c***s and aren't sell outs; they cling to their disgusting capitalist ideals of fucking the poor and making the gap even bigger, and don't even ashamed about it, the absolute filthy vermin that they are. The Liberal Democrats are led by a pishy water damaged Captain Scarlet puppet p***k, who to boot is also a homophobe. It's like Gepetto dreamed his dickhead puppet would become a real boy, but ate too much cheese before bed and his dream was warped, and he got Tim Fanny Farron instead. His party can't be trusted as the tuition fees sell out showed. Of course they aren't the first party to lie and do a huge u-turn and sell out, but that won't ever be forgotten and will always stain them. I wish people would apply this logic to the Conservatives and Labour, who have lied much bigger and much more often and pulled off far more u-turns and sold out far more often than the Liberal Democrats. And of course once more we have a group of sell outs in Scotland who tuck themselves in to the back pocket of their Tory masters to oppose independence. Wankers. All the while shit will be wrecked in the UK. The NHS, transport, local services, the police, the fire service, benefits, welfare and lots more will get fucked and fucked, whilst money is spunked on nuclear weapons, the army, racism and other horrible pish. The banks will probably soon be allowed to invoke prima nocta given how much they've been allowed to shaft us all. People don't have short memories; they have no fucking memories. Just scunnered with it all. I try to think the best of people, or at least hope the best of them, but I have been becoming more and more convinced that the UK is full of selfish, bitter, stupid, racist arseholes, all of whom are being played by the folk in power and their shady paymasters, and don't realise that they are suffering because of it. If you vote for a kick in the balls, don't be surprised when you get a kick in the balls. f**k. Yes,. I'm seething, upset etc etc. There are times when that's appropriate, and if you aren't seething, upset etc over this then you need to ask why. Taking it well I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Go on, SF you know you want to, just to get it right up them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 When's Fides press conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Dear god ! You people are doing the Nats no favours.How many Nats need to go before the alarm bells start ringing in your fantasy world ? Can you not appreciate the fact that a lot of voters who usually vote SNP voted Labour because of Corbyn? I know you're not particularly young, well I don't think you are but I had been saying it for weeks. It's been blatantly obvious. An all time high of 50 percent of the vote to 38 isn't that bad. If Milliband or any other Labour leader for the past however many years was the opposition the SNP would've cruised in with mid 40% of the vote share. SNP also lost a lot of seats on extremely small margins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, jmothecat said: Is there any chance Sinn Fein would be tempted to take their seats in order to make things trickier for the DUP? It would be a huge comedown for the Shinners so can't see it,last night Martina Anderson MEP for them was on saying they'll be fighting for their constituents in the. Dall and in Brussels...Good luck with that love , if NI is a small part in Westminster it's a speck in Europe, anyone voting for SinnFein last night is off their head quite frankly ,they effectively have no representation in their governing parliament or as it stands local government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It would be a huge comedown for the Shinners so can't see it,last night Martina Anderson MEP for them was on saying they'll be fighting for their constituents in the. Dall and in Brussels...Good luck with that love , if NI is a small part in Westminster it's a speck in Europe, anyone voting for SinnFein last night is off their head quite frankly ,they effectively have no representation in their governing parliament or as it stands local government. I'd rather have no representation than risk being represented by the DUP tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeJay Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: Dear god ! You people are doing the Nats no favours.How many Nats need to go before the alarm bells start ringing in your fantasy world ? I don't feel obliged to vote tactically. Sometimes I do but yesterday I voted for the party that aligned most with my own political stance. I can't understand the SNP crisis chat that's going about today. Bit of a reality check which can only be a positive thing long term. Winning much more than all other parties combined and three times more than Lib Dems UK-wide is still a good return IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Can you not appreciate the fact that a lot of voters who usually vote SNP voted Labour because of Corbyn? I know you're not particularly young, well I don't think you are but I had been saying it for weeks. It's been blatantly obvious. An all time high of 50 percent of the vote to 38 isn't that bad. If Milliband or any other Labour leader for the past however many years was the opposition the SNP would've cruised in with mid 40% of the vote share. SNP also lost a lot of seats on extremely small margins. I appreciate the fact some utter loonballs still think the Indy2 bus is on track. "Usually vote SNP voted Corbyn" just means taking it for granted they will just pop back in a bit.Ive watched election nights since the mid 70s and my opinion is Indy2 is a dead duck for at least a decade and possibly forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: Taking it well I see. No. I thought that was clear, especially with the last two sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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