thepundit Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said: I will say this though- the Scots electorate are the best informed in the UK and know exactly how to pitch their vots. Many who voted Tory yesterday will return to the SNP fold for the next Holyrood election on the basis of reasonably competent governance. But there's a hell of a lot of sould searching ahead for supporters of the SNP and those of us in the broader independence movement not affiliated with them. Possibly. But I think Labour and the Conservatives will still do well at the next Holyrood election. Particularly Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, GeeJay said: I usually vote SNP and have always been in favour of indepdendence, but yesterday I went for Labour as a pro-Corbyn socialist vote. My whole family were the same. Doesn't surprise me, Corbyn's manifesto was a valentine card to SNP policy and I can see how any SNP supporter could be seduced by the possibility of a left-leaning uk. My theory is all the arsehole Slabbers went blue while swathes of SNP voters were happy to vote Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernJambo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Agreed. But corbyn will take enormous confidence from this. If he can deal with the arseholes in his own party (who certainly didn't help at pmq's) then he'll start to really make inroads. I'm trying to take some solace from the election. The fact Corbyn has made inroads down south has helped. Now if the rest of those labour c***s get behind him and he has an actual party supporting him, imagine the opposition they could be. Labour might yet again be a credible political party. And let's not forget the fact SNP still fucking dominated Scotland. Okay, it wasn't a whitewash...it was still comprehensive as f**k. That said, tories and DUP...[emoji17] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, Jamaldo said: Shocked that the experts on here were wrong (again) and the SNP didn't get at least 55 seats. 32 minutes ago, Jamaldo said: Fide did, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Having to do a deal with the DUP. Minter. Still, will keep the ***'s happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Theresa May called this election because of threats from Labour, Lib Dems, SNP and others to undermine her Brexit deal. Thank goodness for her that the DUP are so easy going and not the shouty lot that some others can be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Nobody thought the SNP were away to get atleast 55!!! Do you just like making things up on here and scurrying off. If Nicola carries on like what? Hands up - I did. Not because I had great confidence in the SNP but at the point I made my predictions Labour were a shambles. I expected the Tories to hold Mundell's seat and take Berwickshire and take lots of close second places just because of the huge majorities involved. At that point I also thought Murray was toast because of where Labour were and because I thought the Tories would take votes off him. Corbyn' s recovery, aided by May's abysmal campaign put a huge spanner in the works. If that hadn't happened I don't think there would have been the same shift of SNP voters to Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Craig Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Hibeesbounce75 said: you have to be a fucking moron to support the conservatives in Scotland and that odious c**t Davidson. GIRFUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Think there's definitely something in this. Whilst the SNP still have the majority of seats, their vote collapsed in quite a few places in seats they held. They definitely need to get their vote out next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 If there's one positive to this general election and the Tory performance in Scotland, it's that a few posters I've been unaware of have been outed as OFTW in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Think there's definitely something in this. Whilst the SNP still have the majority of seats, their vote collapsed in quite a few places in seats they held. They definitely need to get their vote out next time. They got 38 percent of the vote. They're not being wiped out. Watching the news in Edinburgh there. All young Yes voting Labour voters saying they're getting annoyed with Labour MPs saying this is a win for the union. They voted for Corbyn. I wish Scottish labour would appreciate this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 They got 38 percent of the vote. They're not being wiped out. Watching the news in Edinburgh there. All young Yes voting Labour voters saying they're getting annoyed with Labour MPs saying this is a win for the union. They voted for Corbyn. I wish Scottish labour would appreciate this fact. I wouldn't go that far, either. But I can see them decreasing in seats again come the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 A few weeks ago the Tories were supposedly going to get a landslide. Things changed quickly. People could go back to the SNP. No one has a clue what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Craig Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 13 hours ago, jmothecat said: The Tories expected to take East Renfrewshire? Thought it wild be a Labour/SNP battle. Completely clueless. East Renfrewshire well known as the safest Tory seat in Scotland until 1997. Tories won recent local and Holyrood elections in the Constituency, so on what planet does that equate to Labour/ SNP battle? Blue every year since 1924 and blue again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sooky said: Think there's definitely something in this. Whilst the SNP still have the majority of seats, their vote collapsed in quite a few places in seats they held. They definitely need to get their vote out next time. Nothing new in the SNP risking being wiped out at Westminster elections FPTP given the even spread of their support. They'll be dreading the possibility of another one happening later this year if the Tories and DUP fall out over something. Suspect that's unlikely though as the DUP have a lot to gain from a coalition in terms of NI's status post-Brexit and in having a say in direct rule and the Tories won't be eager to try their luck again with a snap election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, BerwickMad said: I think we were the only party with a presence in Berwick High Street during the campaign. Porksen (Lib Dem) struggled to get her message across and I don't know of anyone who seen her in the town. Add to that, James Matthewson did an unbelievable amount of work in and around Alnwick for the county election. Think he managed to knock on every single door. Plus you've got the south east of the constituency which has always been Labour and where Scott is very popular and hard working. It's still a long way behind the Tories, but I don't think the importance of coming second can be underestimated considering the tactical element of the Lib Dem vote for decades. That's gone. I was surprised with the number of people asking me whether to vote tactically or not. Told them all to vote Labour and they all seemed to agree. It was clear on social media that the divide in the town was between the odd right winger, and loads of young people voting Labour. Changed times. For me personally, it's no secret I wasn't Corbyn's biggest fan, although he was second in my first leadership vote. But he's clearly more electable than I anticipated even 3/4 weeks ago. I think the manifesto pulled so many in and you'd have to be a total c**t to agree with the smearing, bullying campaign from the right wing press so people who weren't that interested before became quite defensive of him. Yeah the "Labour can't wing here" rhetoric gone now - people will vote Labour next time that maybe didn't this time, its a trap we have all fallen into - trying to vote to keep Tories out. Changed times indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It's fair to say given the way the past few elections have went there are no predictions than can be made confidently. What will worry the SNP you'd think is getting 38% of the vote. Yes, it's still good, but it's well down on a couple of years ago and it's not even close to a referendum win - despite the protests, Sturgeon plans (planned?) to have one within the next 20 months or so. The SNP for now at least are a footnote in this election, however. Main story is May's incompetence, the government being propped up by genuine lunatics and Corbyn being the fucking boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Steven Craig said: Completely clueless. East Renfrewshire well known as the safest Tory seat in Scotland until 1997. Tories won recent local and Holyrood elections in the Constituency, so on what planet does that equate to Labour/ SNP battle? Blue every year since 1924 and blue again. Your minging party has been routed and has to get into bed with catholic hating fascists in order to have some semblance of power. Get in the bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 How much did Labour actually increase their vote share in Scotland? To what extent is it increased Labour votes rather than a collapse in the SNP vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeJay Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 To me, 38% SNP vote is brilliant considering the amount of Yes voters I know that went for Labour yesterday. I don't feel appetite for IndyRef2 has changed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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