Kejan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 THE DUP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The amount of working class Scots creaming themselves over the Tories gains in Scotland is mental, we'll all reap what they've sown tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Shocked that the experts on here were wrong (again) and the SNP didn't get at least 55 seats. There was no way they would lose even five so we were told.Hopefully Nicola gets it into her skull that a referendum next year would be a fucking disaster and waits at least 5-10 years for it. Because if she carries on like that again they've lost a vote from me I'm afraid. Nobody thought the SNP were away to get atleast 55!!! Do you just like making things up on here and scurrying off. If Nicola carries on like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Look at the nick of this guy (Ramsay Jones') teeth on BBC 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Nobody thought the SNP were away to get atleast 55!!! Do you just like making things up on here and scurrying off. If Nicola carries on like what? Fide did, although he's a fucking moron.Nicola needs to realise that people actually don't give as much of a shite about the EU as she thinks and leave any future referendum until polling shows support for Yes at an extremely comfortable level (around 60%). If that takes 5, 10, 20 years then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 A referendum wasn't scheduled for fucking next year. She said she was aiming to have one from autumn 2018 - spring 2019, before the brexit process was complete. I don't think I'm making that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jamaldo said: She said she was aiming to have one from autumn 2018 - spring 2019, before the brexit process was complete. I don't think I'm making that up. She said "As soon as the details are known" which is a far more moveable feast than anyone had realised at the time of this statement. autumn 2018 - spring 2019 was an estimate based on the Article 50 schedule which did not include random general elections and coalitions with Nazis. Either way a referendum was not scheduled for fucking next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jamaldo said: She said she was aiming to have one from autumn 2018 - spring 2019, before the brexit process was complete. I don't think I'm making that up. That was the original plan that Theresa May knocked back. People need to get real on that now. The SNP needed to get well over 40% to keep the momentum going from their 2015 and 2016 election victories that were gained when most people assumed there was zero chance of a referendum until well into the 2020s at the very earliest. The Scottish people have spoken and the sensible posture would be to use the 2021 Holyrood election to try to establish a credible electoral mandate for it once the effects of Brexit become clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Would say that's all the energy I have for politics spent, really. Will always vote but am I f**k going about trying to get the message across. Scunnered with it completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Not that long up. Really enjoyed the election. Thanks for all the fantastic reading on here during the night. I haven't had that much fun on the Pie and Bovril since the No vote. The results were a clear rejection for indyref2 (any time soon). There's absolutely no doubt about it. Even the most dedicated Yes supporters would have to admit that if they are being honest with themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Gordon Brown might have a wry smile. He was basically ridiculed for not forcing a snap election when he had the chance. It didn't exactly work out well for him but he rightly saw the dangers of going into a needless election - basically presuming an easy victory. Democracy is beautiful sometimes for handing out some telts to cocky politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 PMQs will be hilarious if May stays on for the foreseeable. Corbyn swaggering in like Vince McMahon every Wednesday and dishing out telts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, thepundit said: I haven't had that much fun on the Pie and Bovril since the No vote. You didn't enjoy the 2016 Cup Final thread then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: PMQs will be hilarious if May stays on for the foreseeable. Corbyn swaggering in like Vince McMahon every Wednesday and dishing out telts. Angus Robertson was 100 times more effective in PMQ's than Corbyn ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, thepundit said: Not that long up. Really enjoyed the election. Thanks for all the fantastic reading on here during the night. I haven't had that much fun on the Pie and Bovril since the No vote. The results were a clear rejection for indyref2 (any time soon). There's absolutely no doubt about it. Even the most dedicated Yes supporters would have to admit that if they are being honest with themselves. Yep it's pretty clear that any such referendum would be lost, and lost badly. 2021 is the absolute earliest for it now and given that Brexit will drag on for years to come I'd say 2021 is generous. I will say this though- the Scots electorate are the best informed in the UK and know exactly how to pitch their vots. Many who voted Tory yesterday will return to the SNP fold for the next Holyrood election on the basis of reasonably competent governance. But there's a hell of a lot of sould searching ahead for supporters of the SNP and those of us in the broader independence movement not affiliated with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Some cretin on R5Live: Q: Why did you vote for the Tories? A: 'Independence. Uhm fed up of hearing about independence'. So votes for the party that hasn't stopped talking about independence for the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 May has got a neck on her that a blow torch couldn't mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeJay Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, thepundit said: The results were a clear rejection for indyref2 (any time soon). There's absolutely no doubt about it. Even the most dedicated Yes supporters would have to admit that if they are being honest with themselves. I usually vote SNP and have always been in favour of indepdendence, but yesterday I went for Labour as a pro-Corbyn socialist vote. My whole family were the same. So how does your "SNP vote down = no IndyRef2" logic stack up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Angus Robertson was 100 times more effective in PMQ's than Corbyn ever was. Agreed. But corbyn will take enormous confidence from this. If he can deal with the arseholes in his own party (who certainly didn't help at pmq's) then he'll start to really make inroads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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