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Yeh this. Wasn't expecting the delusions to continue. Jmo delighted to be wrong but it's not going to stop him from continuing to be wrong for the foreseeable future apparently


Well if being wrong continues to make me happy I'll keep being wrong. :D
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1 minute ago, jamamafegan said:

Last time I checked, there had been no calls for a second referendum whatsoever. Sure it was on the table (and still very much is) but there had been NO calls for one. There's a difference.

The people have been sold a lie of "stopping indy ref 2." How can you stop something of which there were no concrete plans to start it in the first place!

The Scottish Parliament voted to begin the process earlier this year.  The Unionist campaign was pitched at getting a Westminster government in place which would reject the Scottish Parliament's wishes.

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1 minute ago, jamamafegan said:

Last time I checked, there had been no calls for a second referendum whatsoever. Sure it was on the table (and still very much is) but there had been NO calls for one. There's a difference.

The people have been sold a lie of "stopping indy ref 2." How can you stop something of which there were no concrete plans to start it in the first place!

If the SNP had returned 50 + seats again, Sturgeon would have said something about 'a clear mandate for second referendum' before 12pm today.

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SNP take it by 2!

Gethins wins by 2 VOTES
SNP hold NE Fife.

SNP hold NE Fife by 2 votes!!!!

2 votes is mental!  I don't think i've ever seen that before.

Me, my mum and my sister voted for the SNP here in NE Fife. I assume a letter of thanks is already in the post.
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9 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

Last time I checked, there had been no calls for a second referendum whatsoever. Sure it was on the table (and still very much is) but there had been NO calls for one. There's a difference.

The people have been sold a lie of "stopping indy ref 2." How can you stop something of which there were no concrete plans to start it in the first place!

Am I missing something?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39422747

Just a few months ago Nicola put a referendum bill through Holyrood and even said she wanted the vote to be held between Autumn 18 and Spring 19.

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1 minute ago, Lex said:

Am I missing something?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39422747

Just a few months ago Nicola put a referendum bill through Holyrood and even said she wanted the vote to be held between Autumn 18 and Spring 19.

Then once the snap election was called she made this the focus of the SNP campaign.

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Worth remembering that the SNP, despite their losses, won another landslide victory in Scotland.

I'm confident that the catastrofuck that is Brexit and the Tories' feeble attempt at governing with the DUP crazies will see much of the Tory vote melt away.

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Well if being wrong continues to make me happy I'll keep being wrong. [emoji3]


The point is that if you and your ilk in the party hadn't got things so laughably wrong in the first place you might be even happier right now.

Learn from it
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Hi Bri,  absolutely re Berwick. I was going to vote tactically but after our convo  last week went Labour. A magnificent  result in Berwick and gives foundation to kick on. Going to join up now. Well done to Berwick Labour for their work mate.

I think we were the only party with a presence in Berwick High Street during the campaign. Porksen (Lib Dem) struggled to get her message across and I don't know of anyone who seen her in the town.

Add to that, James Matthewson did an unbelievable amount of work in and around Alnwick for the county election. Think he managed to knock on every single door. Plus you've got the south east of the constituency which has always been Labour and where Scott is very popular and hard working.

It's still a long way behind the Tories, but I don't think the importance of coming second can be underestimated considering the tactical element of the Lib Dem vote for decades. That's gone. I was surprised with the number of people asking me whether to vote tactically or not. Told them all to vote Labour and they all seemed to agree. It was clear on social media that the divide in the town was between the odd right winger, and loads of young people voting Labour. Changed times.

For me personally, it's no secret I wasn't Corbyn's biggest fan, although he was second in my first leadership vote. But he's clearly more electable than I anticipated even 3/4 weeks ago. I think the manifesto pulled so many in and you'd have to be a total c**t to agree with the smearing, bullying campaign from the right wing press so people who weren't that interested before became quite defensive of him.
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16 minutes ago, DigOutYourSoul said:

If the SNP had returned 50 + seats again, Sturgeon would have said something about 'a clear mandate for second referendum' before 12pm today.

The mandate hasn't changed, 50-odd mps would have reinforced it.

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8 minutes ago, Lex said:

Am I missing something?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39422747

Just a few months ago Nicola put a referendum bill through Holyrood and even said she wanted the vote to be held between Autumn 18 and Spring 19.

"As soon as the details are known" which is a far more moveable feast than anyone had realised at the time of this statement.

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Shocked that the experts on here were wrong (again) and the SNP didn't get at least 55 seats. There was no way they would lose even five so we were told.

Hopefully Nicola gets it into her skull that a referendum next year would be a fucking disaster and waits at least 5-10 years for it. Because if she carries on like that again they've lost a vote from me I'm afraid.

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1 minute ago, Jamaldo said:

Shocked that the experts on here were wrong (again) and the SNP didn't get at least 55 seats. There was no way they would lose even five so we were told.

Hopefully Nicola gets it into her skull that a referendum next year would be a fucking disaster and waits at least 5-10 years for it. Because if she carries on like that again they've lost a vote from me I'm afraid.

A referendum wasn't scheduled for fucking next year.

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State of Scotland. f**k sake, voting Conservatives as if they actually give a f**k about Scotland and as if they would do anything to help people in Scotland, or indeed in any part of the UK, except their rich banker pals etc.
Do people really hate other people who move here from another country so much (a roundabout way of saying immigrants, but I don't like to classify human beings based on them moving somewhere)? Are people so genuinely stupid as to blindly believe the shite they are told? Are folk so stunningly servile and craven that they are desperate to cling on to a long failed 'Union' that, from the very beginning, was a fucking sham anyway? The Conservatives are led by a despicable cuntress and are a gaggle of scum who gosh and blunder around like it's a jolly old fucking jape, and to them it is, as they stroll around burning money with their banker chums, whilst in reality people are suffering and they just don't care. They simply don't care. Add to that vile scum like the old racist Boris Johnston and you have a truly abhorrent shower of shits. And up here we have a moon faced fud who just cries about people daring to have a say in how they govern themselves, but if it benefited her financially would absolutely support independence. c***s.
Labour can get to f**k as well. Aye, folk are wanking over Corbyn, but he still heads a party of absolute b*****ds and liars, most of whom are utter sell outs and just as bad as their Conservative counterparts. This includes Scottish Labour who gladly prance hand in hand with the Conservatives to stop people having the right to have a fair say when it comes to their governance. The Labour party are pretending to like Corbyn, but I bet the vast majority would stab him in the back, side and front (metaphorically) the first chance they got. A fucking hive of shady snake c***s. At least the Conservatives are openly c***s and aren't sell outs; they cling to their disgusting capitalist ideals of fucking the poor and making the gap even bigger, and don't even ashamed about it, the absolute filthy vermin that they are.
The Liberal Democrats are led by a pishy water damaged Captain Scarlet puppet p***k, who to boot is also a homophobe. It's like Gepetto dreamed his dickhead puppet would become a real boy, but ate too much cheese before bed and his dream was warped, and he got Tim Fanny Farron instead. His party can't be trusted as the tuition fees sell out showed. Of course they aren't the first party to lie and do a huge u-turn and sell out, but that won't ever be forgotten and will always stain them. I wish people would apply this logic to the Conservatives and Labour, who have lied much bigger and much more often and pulled off far more u-turns and sold out far more often than the Liberal Democrats. And of course once more we have a group of sell outs in Scotland who tuck themselves in to the back pocket of their Tory masters to oppose independence. Wankers.
 
All the while shit will be wrecked in the UK. The NHS, transport, local services, the police, the fire service, benefits, welfare and lots more will get fucked and fucked, whilst money is spunked on nuclear weapons, the army, racism and other horrible pish. The banks will probably soon be allowed to invoke prima nocta given how much they've been allowed to shaft us all. People don't have short memories; they have no fucking memories.
Just scunnered with it all. I try to think the best of people, or at least hope the best of them, but I have been becoming more and more convinced that the UK is full of selfish, bitter, stupid, racist arseholes, all of whom are being played by the folk in power and their shady paymasters, and don't realise that they are suffering because of it. If you vote for a kick in the balls, don't be surprised when you get a kick in the balls.
f**k. Yes,. I'm seething, upset etc etc. There are times when that's appropriate, and if you aren't seething, upset etc over this then you need to ask why.
 

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Not enjoying the journey
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