DI Bruce Robertson Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Corbyn to carry out a scorched earth policy on the Angus berry farms! And direct naval assault on Aberdeen, Peterhead & Lossiemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 People who are disappointed maybe want to try and consider what actually happened not what they want to have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, DI Bruce Robertson said: How does May sell "strong & stable" now? BOGOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, RiG said: Has this been clarified? I've seen a few folk on Twitter mention it but no one has been able to provide a source. It'll be an initial assessment. Amazing if it's even a ball-park figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 She surely can't try to form a government with the DUP ffs. Vote of no confidence inevitable within a month imo. The Bojo block of hard Brexit back bench Tories will smell blood and turn against her very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, mizfit said: She was smart enough to pull on the OO and bigot vote, that's eventually going to backfire I think.Could be a few Tory voters who are currently concerned at a DUP Coalition. I would agree, i would argue that the Tories really didn't play a blinder at all, they have went from a comfortable majority to needing a coalition to form a parliament and have seen their biggest rival's gain strength and their leader shown as being utterly spineless and scared of being in a debate with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, ICTChris said: It'll be an initial assessment. Amazing if it's even a ball-park figure. I hope it's correct, it's long overdue that the youngsters stood up for themselves and demanded balance in party manifestos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Especially given the DUP are more to the left economically than some people realise. Will be interesting to see what the "informal agreement" angle between the DUP and SNP is all about:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/08/general-election-results-2017-uk-live-labour-tories-corbyn-may-election-results-live-news-line?page=with:block-593a56cee4b0be3ed19248a2#block-593a56cee4b0be3ed19248a2Foster said any discussions about an informal agreement with the SNP would be over the weekend. “It’s too soon to say what we are going to do yet, we need to see the final makeup of parliament and we need to reflect on that,” she said.“There will be contact made over the weekend, but it is too soon to work out what we are going to do.” The DUP on certain aspects of social policy and freedom of movement are also to the left. If you remove the hell, fire and brimstone areas of their policies they are not a million miles away from the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ruth is a terrible leader. The Conservative "Revival" owes more to Labour being seen as too weak to challenge the SNP and a huge increase in spending by the Conservatives in Scotland off the back of that sentiment. Ruth only looks good when compared to Kezia Dugdale. As a politician and political leader she is very one dimensional and relies a lot on a sympathetic press presentation. We'll just have to disagree on this. I think her parties performance in the last few elections shows she is a good leader. I accept she is one dimensional and it's all about stoking up resentment, mainly to Independence, but it's working for her. Just as three slogans on a bus worked for the Leave vote, she kept it simple for the electorate - 'no to Indyref2'. She also seems to have embraced Brexit even though she hated the idea. That possibly played well for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Lex said: She surely can't try to form a government with the DUP ffs. Vote of no confidence inevitable within a month imo. The Bojo block of hard Brexit back bench Tories will smell blood and turn against her very quickly. Johnson isn't a hard Brexit Tory, I doubt he even knows what he is. Such a tight majority leaves the government open to rebellions by Remainers as well - more Tory MPs backed remain than Leave. i think this will lead to a soft(er) Brexit. Maybe they could even stay in the Single Market and get the SNP on board?> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: The DUP on certain aspects of social policy and freedom of movement are also to the left. If you remove the hell, fire and brimstone areas of their policies they are not a million miles away from the SNP. Thankfully we've got a big puddle of water to keep them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The wee fat Scottish tory had a good nae, very good election strategically. Based on Indy bashing and I don't actually know any of her policies. Exactly. She kept it simple and it worked. Tories are the party of Brexit and 'No to Indyref2'. What else? Who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lex said: She surely can't try to form a government with the DUP ffs. Vote of no confidence inevitable within a month imo. The Bojo block of hard Brexit back bench Tories will smell blood and turn against her very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, EdgarusQPFC said: I would agree, i would argue that the Tories really didn't play a blinder at all, they have went from a comfortable majority to needing a coalition to form a parliament and have seen their biggest rival's gain strength and their leader shown as being utterly spineless and scared of being in a debate with anyone. In Scotland, they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The DUP want the softest border possible. I suspect we might end up with a Brexit that is so soft or so close to where we already are that everybody will wonder why we even bothered. A bit like deciding you don't want to stay at a pub any longer, you want to go somewhere else and you end up in the beer garden out the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The Tories pre-election: Strong and stable government Tories now chasing that sweet DUP MP bloc: Jurassic Park is an affront to God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Johnson isn't a hard Brexit Tory, I doubt he even knows what he is. Such a tight majority leaves the government open to rebellions by Remainers as well - more Tory MPs backed remain than Leave. i think this will lead to a soft(er) Brexit. Maybe they could even stay in the Single Market and get the SNP on board?> He's the figurehead of that Brexit branch of the party, he was the defaqto leader of the leave campaign after all. If she does go ahead with this lunacy coalition and agrees to soften up on Brexit these Tory MP's will quickly team up with Labour and The SNP and call a vote of no confidence in the government, and they'll win it. Then we have another general election. There's no way this coalition with the DUP lasts a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just woke up. It's a bit pish isn't it. Still only short by about 7 seats from what I thought the SNP would get.What is alarming is the amount of people that have clearly voted Tory because of fucking independence/because they are a ***. That's brutal. Yes vote has clearly split because of Corbyn, id say about 7-10 percent of labours vote has came from Yes voters up here which is why every single Scottish labour MP harking on about this meaning no second divisive referendum is driving me insane. Good to see Labour come so close down south but the fact the Tories still got more votes when Theresa May has been an absolute shambles for months is pretty worrying.A DUP/Tory deal would be fucking depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Good luck getting Kenneth Clarke to vote for a hard Brexit with their minuscule majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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