Crùbag Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Tories like to talk big on security but they've got Green MP Caroline Lucas on a watch list! Yet they let a young Islamist back into the country from Libya with no questions asked? With the cuts to police down south, shouldn't they target their resources a bit better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I don't think it's stupidity that has people potentially flocking back to Labour more the fact they've produced a good manifesto for the first time in yonks. They'd maybe have seen a minor bounce in the polls up here if Scottish Labour's ineffectual clown car leadership hadn't prevented a sustained attack on the SNP from the left. As it is they'll stay a complete irrelevance and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Labour in Scotland are finished. I know this as I have read it on here multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhafc1874 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Monica Lennon digging an impressively deep hole for herself on Twitter today.No surprise from one of the more disengenous members of Labour's MSP group.She just can't help herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 8 hours ago, Fide said: There is actually zero chance of Labour doing well up here, due to the fact that the Scottish electorate aren't nearly as stupid as the English electorate. Labour's resurgence in England has f**k all to do with idiocy. But I'm guessing you're not so thick as to not see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: Labour's resurgence in England has f**k all to do with idiocy. I think it does to some extent. Or more exactly contrariness – the desire to give someone a bloody nose because you're told they're the only sensible option (cf US Presidential Election; Brexit). I'm sure some are looking at policies, but you inevitably see this drift in election campaigns – it may well affect the SNP up here. If Corbyn looks like he's winning ahead of the election, it'll swing back I expect. So it's not outright stupidity, but you can't really put the resurgence down to voters reading manifestos and suddenly realising the Tories are horrendous. I don't think things like the rape clause even figure down south for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: I think it does to some extent. Or more exactly contrariness – the desire to give someone a bloody nose because you're told they're the only sensible option (cf US Presidential Election; Brexit). I'm sure some are looking at policies, but you inevitably see this drift in election campaigns – it may well affect the SNP up here. If Corbyn looks like he's winning ahead of the election, it'll swing back I expect. So it's not outright stupidity, but you can't really put the resurgence down to voters reading manifestos and suddenly realising the Tories are horrendous. I don't think things like the rape clause even figure down south for some reason. Whoever coined the phrase "Dementia Tax" played a blinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: I think it does to some extent. Or more exactly contrariness – the desire to give someone a bloody nose because you're told they're the only sensible option (cf US Presidential Election; Brexit). I'm sure some are looking at policies, but you inevitably see this drift in election campaigns – it may well affect the SNP up here. If Corbyn looks like he's winning ahead of the election, it'll swing back I expect. So it's not outright stupidity, but you can't really put the resurgence down to voters reading manifestos and suddenly realising the Tories are horrendous. I don't think things like the rape clause even figure down south for some reason. They ARE the sensible option though. The options in England are terrible, and Labour are probably the best bet for any voters who look at the Tories and want them out. It's not about reading the manifestos or anything like that. It's a basic case of looking at their options and realising what they are. That's not stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Whoever coined the phrase "Dementia Tax" played a blinder. Can't quite get his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 37 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: They ARE the sensible option though. I know – or the more sensible option, certainly. But I don't think that's the cause of the resurgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Sturgeon's interview with Neil is on BBC One just now. She has started pretty well under a relatively hard line of questioning, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 She was very good. Best politician in the UK right now by a mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 In my constituency, Glasgow North, Patrick Harvie is standing for the Greens. Ordinarily, I vote Green, unless there is no chance they'll get in (Holyrood constituency vote) or there is no candidate (Westminster vote in Aberdeen South), in which case I vote SNP. Do any of you nerds know if there is a significant chance of the Tories or any other party taking GNorth, or am I safe to back everyone's favourite vegetarian? I'd love to see him as MP, but keeping the Tories out is obviously the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Andrew Neil was awful and I haven't been impressed with any of his interviews. He threw softballs at Theresa May which she fumbled over, tedious re-treading with Corbyn when he had clearly answered the question and bland questions for Sturgeon which she easily worked her way around. The BBC were looking for the big hit that Vote Labour, Get SNP for their English viewers and lead with that point on the news. But Nicola Sturgeon never said she would work with Labour, she said a "progressive alliance" which is not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, RussellAnderson said: In my constituency, Glasgow North, Patrick Harvie is standing for the Greens. Ordinarily, I vote Green, unless there is no chance they'll get in (Holyrood constituency vote) or there is no candidate (Westminster vote in Aberdeen South), in which case I vote SNP. Do any of you nerds know if there is a significant chance of the Tories or any other party taking GNorth, or am I safe to back everyone's favourite vegetarian? I'd love to see him as MP, but keeping the Tories out is obviously the priority. Given that the labour + Tory vote in Glasgow north last time was well short of the SNP total, looks like you are safeto vote green. The greens were miles behind the SNP in 2015 so looks like it wont matter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, RussellAnderson said: In my constituency, Glasgow North, Patrick Harvie is standing for the Greens. Ordinarily, I vote Green, unless there is no chance they'll get in (Holyrood constituency vote) or there is no candidate (Westminster vote in Aberdeen South), in which case I vote SNP. Do any of you nerds know if there is a significant chance of the Tories or any other party taking GNorth, or am I safe to back everyone's favourite vegetarian? I'd love to see him as MP, but keeping the Tories out is obviously the priority. I wouldn't give SLAB or the Tories the slightest whiff of a chance regardless of previous voting %'s, a big cross next to SNP should be the only choice for any YES voter or anti Westminster 2. We heard all this shite before the Holyrood elections and all it did is enable the bawbags to continually bump their gums about no SNP majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 In my constituency, Glasgow North, Patrick Harvie is standing for the Greens. Ordinarily, I vote Green, unless there is no chance they'll get in (Holyrood constituency vote) or there is no candidate (Westminster vote in Aberdeen South), in which case I vote SNP. Do any of you nerds know if there is a significant chance of the Tories or any other party taking GNorth, or am I safe to back everyone's favourite vegetarian? I'd love to see him as MP, but keeping the Tories out is obviously the priority. You should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Cheers lads. I'll be happy with an SNP win but I'd like to be able to follow the principles of democracy for once at WM. If there are developments which mean the SNP need my vote tag me in eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Just watched the sturgeon interview with Andrew Neil there. Complete class as always, Neil was in awe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowArab Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Does anyone know when the postal ballots are expected to arrive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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