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As I mentioned in an earlier post, I believe the SFA asked for all footage that we had of the incident. The referee was aware that something had happened, but no officials had seen. This was then included in his match report. The SFA then asked for any footage that we had of the incident. We were not going to actively seek any retrospective action for this, as it had no impact on the result. However, we were not going to refuse the SFA's request.

That's definitely not the case for the Falkirk incident though. I can understand Falkirk fans' criticism of the way we have dealt with this, but would also add that justice has been done. This may encourage other clubs to do the same, in instances like this. Until diving is punished regularly, it's not going to stop. I believe that the SFA only look at these issues if it is a dive that has won a penalty and/or got a player red carded. For what it's worth, I would argue that diving, in an attempt to get an opponent sent off should be a red card at the time as well.

We're also guilty of diving. Cardle and McMullan regularly go down far too easily in the box. Pretty sure Moffat was booked for diving at Ayr last season. We're not as innocent as a lot of our fans' rage here would suggest. Nowhere near it. Hippolyte was successful with his dive and will happily accept his ban, knowing it helped them beat us and he'll be fresh for the playoffs. No worse than a player blocking a shot with their hands, when it's going in. I doubt that would cause such outrage on here.

My frustration is with the referee. If he wasn't in a position to see if it was Murdoch or Hippolyte that played the ball, then he wasn't in a position to be able to give a penalty. As I said earlier though, he was just really poor in general, and I do not believe he was biased or cheating in any way.

Do you think your goalkeepers actions towards the referee were justified? Just interested in your opinion.
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So he is rested against qots. Great that totally helps us too. We are the victims here and get nothing back. The sfa, the ref have been shown to be incompetent and falkirk cheated us out of three points and a red card that wouldn't have happened. We should get three points and dickhead should be banned for the rest of the season including playoffs.

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Were you realistically going to catch Morton?? This cheated out of a play off place as if it was the last game of the season and Morton got fourth on goal difference is a bit far fetched. You are fifth and that's where you would have finished regardless of the result against us. The chances are we would have equalised anyway on Saturday taking the penalty out of the equation!!

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1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said:

So he is rested against qots. Great that totally helps us too. We are the victims here and get nothing back. The sfa, the ref have been shown to be incompetent and falkirk cheated us out of three points and a red card that wouldn't have happened. We should get three points and dickhead should be banned for the rest of the season including playoffs.

I like this one. Can we keep him?

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Every team has players that will make the most of contact in the box most strikers do it now. The pars as one sensible fan noted earlier have a few players that like a dive all I hope is that if this precident has been set then the sfa will consistently apply it. I doubt it

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So he is rested against qots. Great that totally helps us too. We are the victims here and get nothing back. The sfa, the ref have been shown to be incompetent and falkirk cheated us out of three points and a red card that wouldn't have happened. We should get three points and dickhead should be banned for the rest of the season including playoffs.

Ahhhh you were quite convincing up till now. On the wind up looking for bites, fair play bigman.
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Notice how Falkirk fc have said that this is the matter now closed basically admitting their player cheated, teams should be docked points in these cases, only way of clamping down on diving, no question it changed the whole game the players attitude, the atmosphere inside the ground, I`m confident the pars would have went on and comfortably won the game had there not been a penalty, as for sibbald hes at his level, and a complete little w*** at the end of the game.

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6 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said:

 


I genuinely don't mind a 2 match ban for diving but if it's not consistently applied it just makes a mockery of the league for everyone

 

Hopkirk dived on Saturday and got a yellow. Myles dived and effectively got a retrospective red. Inconsistency all over the shop.

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I dunno how to feel about this...
He deserves a two match ban at least i'd say. Him and Austin are both diving wee shites. There's no place for it in Scottish football. I'll be honest I thought it was a stonewaller behind the goals on Saturday. It wasn't until I saw the replay, I thought "holly f**k that's the worst I've ever seen".
That said, its a fucking delight it happened against those fife c***s and they're seething.  
It's a tough one...Do you slam him or build a statue 



>>>>This!
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I honestly don't have a problem with it whatsoever, it's part of the game. It's up to the referee to notice it and punish players for it should they wish. I see it on a par (pardon the pun) with a player deliberately fouling an opposition player whilst they are on a counter attack, and get a booking for it. If you don't like it, maybe go watch rugby or something.



Sorry? Have morals gone out of our game completely?

I, for one, have a Big problem with diving
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46 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said:

 


So the perpetrator of the act for Ross County should not be dealt with by the authorities if the ref makes an arse of it? I think most football fans would agree it should be looked at retrospectively.

Divers need to be held to account. Preferably during the game where they get caught and booked (see Hopkirk) but if it is missed retrospective punishment needs to apply.

Falkirk player took a dive, got away with it and was punished retrospectively, not sure how anybody can think it should just get ignored if evidence exists. It just encourages folk to fling themselves to the ground. Surely nobody wants that.




 

 

Nope; I said two words - 'deary me'. I didn't say that if a RC player was to dive he should not be dealt with. I did not say that divers don't need to be held to account and I'm not saying that a dive should be ignored if evidence exists. Why would saying those two words suggest to you that I would?

What I was scoffing at (two words remember) was you putting forward a totally hypothetical situation and suggesting that we would complain about it in a petulant manner. Much like you just did with your rambling pish.

And, FWIW I consider a diver to be someone who goes down without contact. There was significant contact on Hippolyte although the resultant somersault was uncalled for. I do however still feel it odd that someone looking to gain an advantage would perform a somersault to achieve it when the usual maneuver is to fall forward, legs and arms akimbo. Much like Baird did shortly afterward!

 

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Do you think your goalkeepers actions towards the referee were justified? Just interested in your opinion.


No. I can understand his frustration, but that's no excuse. Thought he would get sent off, and couldn't have complained. You need to show officials respect, regardless of how they've performed. No place for behaviour like that in the game.

A 'tougher' ref wouldn't have hesitated to send him off. The fact he stayed on the pitch is further evidence of no bias towards Falkirk in his decisions, as that was certainly a Pars player benefitting from leniency.
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