St Mirren v Dumbarton 8th April 2017

[shull]

Glad no more Dumbarton again this Season.

A very decent Team who graft like feck.

breeks ruined today

[Stu]

Think the timer on the scoreboard was started late for both halves. Was at least 45.30 on the timer on my laptop when the first half finished and there was about a 30 second difference between the two in the second.

[squeezeboxson]

1 hour ago, houston_bud said:

 

It was right infront of me and I didn't even think it was a foul. He looked about a yard away from the Dumbarton lad when he lept into the air. He got booked for going to ground, but it wasn't reckless, and there was no contact. I doubt it'll even make the highlights.

 

I've accepted that it may not have been as bad as a red and have also admitted that I would like to see it again. But one thing that isn't in doubt is that he was very late and it was a foul. Can't have been right in front of you as it wasn't that close to the sideline, was it?

[Stevie88]

My sympathies to anyone else in W1 whose ears are still bleeding after 90 minutes of non-stop screeching.
 
Dumbarton were the better team, our movement was rotten second half and the Stelios/Eckersley combo was pretty terrible. Could have nicked it though with the penalty and Martin was forced into a couple of great saves.
 

[emoji23] yeah, that was horrendous... hopefully she moves stand for the next home game.

[houston_bud]

I've accepted that it may not have been as bad as a red and have also admitted that I would like to see it again. But one thing that isn't in doubt is that he was very late and it was a foul. Can't have been right in front of you as it wasn't that close to the sideline, was it?

You're splitting hairs here. It was down our left hand side, and it happened in line with where I sit.

I do doubt that it was a foul, and so did people around me. I can't say 100% it wasnt a foul. On second thoughts as he ended up seeing red later in the game we might see it on the highlights.

[sonsism]

Great highlights as always by Sons TV

[Shuggie_Murray7]

That McKenzie header is a sitter.

Still couldn't see if Eckersley made contact or not because of the man blocking the view.

Stone wall penalty. At the time I thought decent save, but seeing that back it is a dreadful penalty from Loy.

[squeezeboxson]

Having seen the highlights again most of what I thought has been confirmed.

Our defending at the St Mirren goal was dreadful. It was far too easy getting the shot on goal, not the mentioned the build up play.

Vaughan's goal looks much better than I thought at the time. Didn't realise he has hit it through so many players. Decent strike.

I don't think that's a penalty to be honest. McGinn has had as much of a go at Barr if not more. He just ends up on his backside. Smart from him but the ref has just lapped it up.

Eckersley is so late and the challenge is very rash. It's a booking all day. After seeing it, it wasn't nearly a red (as I thought at the time) but had to be a booking.

Decent point for us, but seeing the highlights just shows how many near chances we had breaking into the St Mirren third of the pitch in the 2nd half. Think Vaughan is barged a bit and it was a better shout for a pen than the one St Mirren got but it would have been soft.

[Poet of the Macabre]

Plenty of good St Mirren posters, many of whom would be sadly missed from this forum if Saints were to be relegated.

Bobby F is not one of those posters.

[The Moonster]

Where to start. I got the late call into hospitality and couldn't believe my luck. The meal was okay but free drink is not to be sniffed at. We watched the first half and were then escorted to the away end because a "complaint" had been made about us cheering on Dumbarton. We moved, wondering what the f**k it was all about, and were told we were allowed back in at full time for our full time pint. At full time I asked one of the officials what the complaint was only to be told that no complaints had been made about us. I cannot comprehend why we were moved, we were enjoying good banter with the Saints fans in front of us and there was no swearing or anything untoward, we even sat down when we were asked to, despite being sat in the back row and blocking the view of absolutely nobody. If we'd been warned at some point in the first half I would've accepted being moved without question, but I genuinely don't understand what the problem was, weird as f**k from the c***s running hospitality and I wouldn't recommend it unless you're getting it for hee-haw.

As for the football, I thought we were poor in the first half. The ball seemed a hot potato for us with nobody taking control. Then, penalty St Mirren. Harvie kicking lumps out the spot, the tannoy playing the celebration music, Loy hitting a pisser and Super Al Martin palming it away. It was fucking glorious. It seemed to give us a wee kick up the arse and if we had knicked it in the second half I don't think there could be any complaints.

What a strike from wee Vaughan, the pictures are fucking brilliant . Great point for us and another step closer to safety. I had feelings of goodwill towards St Mirren before yesterday, can't say I do now, I'm sure you'll all be distraught. Get it right round you Bobby F. 

[The Moonster]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Jan Vojáček]

Watching back the highlights confirms that the referee books Harvie based on Loy's word.

I've seen a lot of poor refereeing, but that is right up there. The guy was well, well out his depth in such an important game in front of a big crowd yesterday.

The penalty itself was probably more won by McGinn than conceded by Barr. In saying that that's 4 he's now conceded this year, so I suspect opposition teams will now go down easily around him because he is quite physical.

Vaughan's goal was far better than I thought it was at the time. Only bettered by the seethe from the home end at his celebration.

Berba was excellent yesterday, absolutely dominant in the air - probably won more headers yesterday than in the first six months of the season.

Things Lewis Vaughan hates:

Raith Rovers
Gary Locke
St Mirren
The Weans

Things Lewis Vaughan loves:

Dumbarton Football Club
Hibernian Football Club Club

[buddie06smfc]

Watching back the highlights confirms that the referee books Harvie based on Loy's word.

I've seen a lot of poor refereeing, but that is right up there. The guy was well, well out his depth in such an important game in front of a big crowd yesterday.

He done it in full view of the linesman. Such cheating should not be getting discussed in the first place. Booking was spot on. It didn't excuse the penalty attempt.

[The Moonster]

Are folk seriously questioning either of Eckersley's bookings? He's about 3 days late on the first one and not much better on the second. 

[glenburn bud]

6 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Are folk seriously questioning either of Eckersley's bookings? He's about 3 days late on the first one and not much better on the second. 

As was Harvie on Loy long after the ball had gone, Harvie was already on a yellow but the incompetent match official shat it.

[Jan Vojáček]

3 minutes ago, buddie06smfc said:

He done it in full view of the linesman. Such cheating should not be getting discussed in the first place. Booking was spot on. It didn't excuse the penalty attempt.

 

 Disgusting behaviour. I'd rather have my leg broken and be spat at than see a player rake his studs over the penalty spot.

That's all well and good, and I'd accept it if the linesman had informed the referee. He didn't however, so the referee gave a decision based on the word of an opponent. Surely you can see that, that is embarrassingly weak refereeing?

You're coming across as quite precious with your response. It's not different than any other form of mind games (swinging on the crossbar, making wee comments prior to it, holding the ball, or my personal favourite of claiming I had dirt in my glove and taking it off, then taking forever to put it on again) and made no difference to the outcome as you admit. I really don't see it as a big deal that a player tried to put off another player from scoring a potentially crucial goal.

[The Moonster]

3 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

As was Harvie on Loy long after the ball had gone, Harvie was already on a yellow but the incompetent match official shat it.

Can't say I recall that. Why would the official shite it? And how does that have any bearing whatsoever on the decision to book Eckersley for two entirely bookable challenges?

[djchapsticks]

2 hours ago, The Moonster said:

Where to start. I got the late call into hospitality and couldn't believe my luck. The meal was okay but free drink is not to be sniffed at. We watched the first half and were then escorted to the away end because a "complaint" had been made about us cheering on Dumbarton. We moved, wondering what the f**k it was all about, and were told we were allowed back in at full time for our full time pint. At full time I asked one of the officials what the complaint was only to be told that no complaints had been made about us. I cannot comprehend why we were moved, we were enjoying good banter with the Saints fans in front of us and there was no swearing or anything untoward, we even sat down when we were asked to, despite being sat in the back row and blocking the view of absolutely nobody. If we'd been warned at some point in the first half I would've accepted being moved without question, but I genuinely don't understand what the problem was, weird as f**k from the c***s running hospitality and I wouldn't recommend it unless you're getting it for hee-haw.

Getting it for hee-haw or not doesn't matter, phone the club on Monday and ask to speak to Campbell Kennedy and ask why this has happened. I have been to hospitality several times and have never heard of the away fans being moved to the away stand for any reason. Indeed the away fans in hospitality generally get a wee bit of good natured ribbing from Campbell during his speaking duties. 

This is unacceptable on the part of the club to shift you into another stand when you're a guest of the club and you're due an explanation on why this has happened, especially if you've caused no problems. 

[djchapsticks]

5 minutes ago, Sonsteam of 08 said:

 Disgusting behaviour. I'd rather have my leg broken and be spat at than see a player rake his studs over the penalty spot.

That's all well and good, and I'd accept it if the linesman had informed the referee. He didn't however, so the referee gave a decision based on the word of an opponent. Surely you can see that, that is embarrassingly weak refereeing?

You're coming across as quite precious with your response. It's not different than any other form of mind games (swinging on the crossbar, making wee comments prior to it, holding the ball, or my personal favourite of claiming I had dirt in my glove and taking it off, then taking forever to put it on again) and made no difference to the outcome as you admit. I really don't see it as a big deal that a player tried to put off another player from scoring a potentially crucial goal.

Talking of linesmen making decisions, how about the foul by the Dumbarton player in the corner, a yard under the linesman's nose who gave a free kick to St. Mirren only for the ham fisted arsehole of a ref to come barrelling in from about 25 yards away to overturn him and give Dumbarton the free kick?

[glenburn bud]

3 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Can't say I recall that. Why would the official shite it? And how does that have any bearing whatsoever on the decision to book Eckersley for two entirely bookable challenges?

I'm highlighting how poor the referee was for both teams, the first booking for Eckersley was harsh from my viewing but it's all about opinions.