Nightmare Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Yeah, not really sure what the US is getting out of sharing a World Cup. It's the most capable country in the world of holding the whole thing by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Doesn't seem to make sense, especially when relations with Mexico are the worst they've been for a century! I do like co-hosting in principle. It always adds something to tournaments seeing how hosts get on, I tend to feel a bit sad when they get knocked out (though I doubt I'll shed many tears for Russia). I just can't see why America don't go it alone. Maybe they think the other CONCACAF nations would vote against them if they tried, so it's better to have the near-guarantee of hosting 75% of the competition rather than take a risk on missing out altogether trying to earn the rights to host all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39448474 What do you make of this? teams like USA & Iran, guaranteed to be in it every year. 9 African teams? 6 North/Central America teams?? 8 Asian teams?!?! One from Oceania Only 3 extra places for European teams? 6 out of 10 teams from South America qualifying??? What a dire World Cup that will be. It's going the way of the Champions League. Too many teams, probably overhyped and underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Why do the USA need to go in with Canada and Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpar Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Why do Mexico need the US? Of the Canadian cities mentioned as potential hosts, Toronto, Hamilton, Winnipeg, Edmonton and Vancouver. Only Toronto currently has a grass pitch and it's not that big (at the moment) Edmonton and Vancouver have large recently renovated stadiums, Winnipeg is less than five years old but they all have astroturf. Hamilton is tiny by world cup standards, plus it's an awful city. Plus all of these stadiums host CFL teams which runs through the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 18 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Seems as good a thread as any to put it.... The USA, Canada and Mexico have announced a joint bid for the 2026 World Cup. Of the eighty games, America would host sixty games, the other two nations ten each. Seems a bit too US-centric to me. I'd like to think Mexico and Canada would be able to host at least a quarter of the matches each. If America is hosting 75% of games, they may as well just launch a solo bid. We don't have enough stadiums big enough and nice enough to accommodate more than that, we only have 4 that hold over 50,000 and of those 4, 1 is primarily a Baseball stadium (Rogers Centre in Toronto) and generally a poor venue for non-baseball games, 1 is a crumbling shitehole (Olympic Stadium in Montreal), and the other 2 (Commonwelth Stadium in Edmonton and BC Place in Vancouver) so without spending massive amounts of cash then we could only really host 10 games. Fair play to the CSA for their cunning plan to try to piggyback on a US led bid. It's the only way we could ever qualify for a World Cup, even with the expansion to 48 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, Torpar said: Why do Mexico need the US? Of the Canadian cities mentioned as potential hosts, Toronto, Hamilton, Winnipeg, Edmonton and Vancouver. Only Toronto currently has a grass pitch and it's not that big (at the moment) Edmonton and Vancouver have large recently renovated stadiums, Winnipeg is less than five years old but they all have astroturf. Hamilton is tiny by world cup standards, plus it's an awful city. Plus all of these stadiums host CFL teams which runs through the summer Putting down a grass pitch for a World Cup is not really that difficult a concept, especially with so much planning time but realistically there would need to be expansions done to Stadiums that are not Commonwealth or BC Place for a World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I can understand the Canadians wanting to pair-up with the Americans. It'd be similar to NZ piggy-backing with Australia. I fail to see why the Americans & Canadians would want to pair up with the Mexicans for the sake of 10 out of 80 games. Unless they think Mexico would bid against them and either prove a threat or potentially split votes and let someone else in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 On 11/04/2017 at 18:21, HibeeJibee said: I can understand the Canadians wanting to pair-up with the Americans. It'd be similar to NZ piggy-backing with Australia. I fail to see why the Americans & Canadians would want to pair up with the Mexicans for the sake of 10 out of 80 games. Unless they think Mexico would bid against them and either prove a threat or potentially split votes and let someone else in. I honestly think its great, it's going to be fantastic people, really great, no one does world cups like i do them, believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Probably should be in another thread but it's not. Did you know that 87 years ago today the first World Cup games were played in Montevideo with France 4 Mexico 1 and USA 3 Belgium 0. Only 13 countries took part and there were no qualifying games. According to Wiki the 4 European participants, Belgium, France, Romania & Yugoslavia all travelled to Uruguay on the same ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Conte Verde: Yugoslavia travelled on a different ship - Florida: I also love how this was covered in the British press, the Home Nations not participating of course (or even being part of FIFA, IIRC) - calling it the World's Championship in " " marks, labelling it a 'so-called', and obviously expressing a degree of surprise at the level of interest . Here's the sum total coverage the Scotsman devoted to the inaugural World Cup final: Four years later there were effectively 17 finalists... Mexico v USA continental playoff was in Rome only 3 days before the finals - which were knockout - began. Four years after that there were only 15 finalists... Austria had been annexed by Germany after qualifying, England declined an invite, and so Sweden got a R1 bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Hessian Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Elementary Penguin said: The 48 team thing is a fucking bad joke. What i thought more relevant, going back a few years, would be a 36 team event with 6 groups of 6. Ok, it adds a week on top of the current format, but simply by giving Europe (up to 14), North/South America (combined up to 9), Asia/OFC and Africa (both 6) each an additional spot, still maintaining a degree of competency. I think you're overstating the importance of competitive. meaningful games here - don't forget that the World Cup is a festival of corruption, bribery, freeloading, marketeering, franchising, merchandising opportunities and money-making with some football thrown in for good measure; that said, i do think there's some serious thought that has to be given to the revenue streams which can be realised from a longer (six group) competition compared to a shorter splurge with 48 competing nations; I can't believe that the rake-off from broadcasting rights in Burkina Faso, Bhutan, Timor-Leste and the other additional qualifiers is going to outweigh what can be made from an extra week of exposure in more mainstream TV markets - some grown-up thinking required from the FIFA mandarins required in order to avoid some unseemly nose cutting and face-spiting behaviour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just read that Morroco have Bid to host the 2026 world cup, alongside a Joint USA/Canada bid, i cannot see anyone else bidding as UEFA and AFA are both not allowed to following 2018 and 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latino Lover Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Morocco have no chance there and it's overdue in North America by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, mizfit said: Just read that Morroco have Bid to host the 2026 world cup, alongside a Joint USA/Canada bid, i cannot see anyone else bidding as UEFA and AFA are both not allowed to following 2018 and 2022. Hopefully the Morocco bid fails as being co-host is the only way we would ever be able to actually make the world cup! Even with 48 teams there isn't a snowball's chance in hell Canada would qualify by actually playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 You'd think Morocco's chances will be diminished by their refusal to host the African Cup of Nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 In 1994 then 1998 Morocco came a fairly close second to USA then France. Total failure in 2006 though - it'll be same this time given 48 teams, more ££ in North America, plus ACON 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 48 teams is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Why? Dilutes the quality (Panama v Uzbekistan, hold me back) and fucks with a good format. Also slims down who can actually host one even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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