wullie robb Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I've never seen Jeanfield so I couldn't compare, it's a winner takes all scenario so will probably be down to who wants it most on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsorsladdie Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I've never seen Jeanfield so I couldn't compare, it's a winner takes all scenario so will probably be down to who wants it most on the day. Not quite winner takes all, I'm sure Jeanfield would be more than happy with a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullie robb Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Why ? They have a home tie, and a not so good goal difference that could go against them. Also away to Bonnyrigg next. Manager must be thinking win this one and no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee fan Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Asst man said: On watching Musselburgh last night, I am not sure that they will get the point required to catch Newtongrange. All about opinions, but I'd say you've got that wrong. If you saw us last week at Bonnyrigg, you'd think we were the team challenging Kelly for the league title. Musselburgh were poor in the first half last night, then raised their game in the 2nd half but still not causing the goalkeeper much worry, if at all. At Bonnyrigg we chased every ball, made them look an inferior team and deservedly won the match. Which team turns up on Saturday. Me thinks the one who will get three points and avoid all possibility of relegation, thus keeping the pressure on both Newtongrange and Jeanfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsorsladdie Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Why ? They have a home tie, and a not so good goal difference that could go against them. Also away to Bonnyrigg next. Manager must be thinking win this one and no worries. I'm sure the manager will be thinking this one but a draw for them and then a point against Linlithgow or Bonnyrigg and they are safe. Where is there isn't another chance for Mussie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutshell Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Same way sauchie got shafted last year. Leagues are a joke. Organized my arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b on the star Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Totally agree. A fixture list is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jones Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Coming up for the end of season, but still lots to play for! If Bonnyrigg win their last 5 league games, then they could still win the league from Kelty, and would do if Linlithgow win/draw against Kelty tomorrow. At the Bottom of division, Camelon, Jeanfield, Musselburgh, and Newtongrange one way or another are still involved in either automatic relegation or perhaps in an end of season play-off against Forfar. - Have discounted Linlithgow as they surely will get one point out of their last 4 games to be safe. My main thought at this time is 3 points for Musselburgh to be certain of staying in the league. Hope we take a good crowd up to Perth to cheer the boys onto victory tomorrow. MTB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeks Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 With everything so close at the top and the bottom we have still got the dinosaurs looking for change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 13 hours ago, b on the star said: Totally agree. A fixture list is the answer That's no going to happen anytime soon, so in the meantime scrapping the play-off and going for straight promotion/relegation would be an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just me 2 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Not sure mate, I only know the FWE thing as I read it on here. Some expert [emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 That's no going to happen anytime soon, so in the meantime scrapping the play-off and going for straight promotion/relegation would be an improvement. Why can't a fixture list happen any time soon? Surely in 2017 the answer isn't to scrap the play off cos of the skewed fixtures? Like Wishart saying the rules should be changed re betting cos the players can't stop breaking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Because in 2017 most clubs don’t even have floodlights. Without floodlights and the ability to re-arrange postponed games for midweek during the winter, then any fixture list will have completely fallen apart by the time you get to the business end of the season anyway, particularly when weeks of Scottish Cup postponements drive a wrecking ball through it. So rather than moan about something that is not achievable anytime soon, maybe just scrap the pointless play-off and have three up/down. That’s as simple as a club proposing it, and a show of hands at the AGM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsorsladdie Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Because in 2017 most clubs don’t even have floodlights. Without floodlights and the ability to re-arrange postponed games for midweek during the winter, then any fixture list will have completely fallen apart by the time you get to the business end of the season anyway, particularly when weeks of Scottish Cup postponements drive a wrecking ball through it. So rather than moan about something that is not achievable anytime soon, maybe just scrap the pointless play-off and have three up/down. That’s as simple as a club proposing it, and a show of hands at the AGM. It's really not that hard to get a fixture list in place for a season and floodlights shouldn't need to come into the question.30 - league8 - Junior Cup5 - Senior Cup is good going10 - local cups (max)53 - for an exceptional season.45 - Saturdays Between Aug and end of May8 - Mid week Aug & Sept9 - Mid week Apr & May62 - possible dates (using only one day mid week)Not many teams have 9 weeks of call offs on top of an exceptional season. Even scheduling in every 2nd mid week (say Wed) Aug & Sept and Apr & May along with weekends you are looking at 53 dates for dames and a max of 53 games in a exceptional season. If you go with that you get a fixture list for the season and leave 5 Wednesdays Apr & May along with 9 Mondays. So 14 dates available for games that have been cancelled/replays or what ever else puts a game off, I'd be surprised if a team has an exceptional season of 50 plus games and 14 call offs.It really is beyond me that we are incapable of sorting this out at our level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 midweeks in August and September a bit ambitious. Nights drawing in September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 It's really not that hard to get a fixture list in place for a season and floodlights shouldn't need to come into the question.30 - league8 - Junior Cup5 - Senior Cup is good going10 - local cups (max)53 - for an exceptional season.45 - Saturdays Between Aug and end of May8 - Mid week Aug & Sept9 - Mid week Apr & May62 - possible dates (using only one day mid week)Not many teams have 9 weeks of call offs on top of an exceptional season. Even scheduling in every 2nd mid week (say Wed) Aug & Sept and Apr & May along with weekends you are looking at 53 dates for dames and a max of 53 games in a exceptional season. If you go with that you get a fixture list for the season and leave 5 Wednesdays Apr & May along with 9 Mondays. So 14 dates available for games that have been cancelled/replays or what ever else puts a game off, I'd be surprised if a team has an exceptional season of 50 plus games and 14 call offs.It really is beyond me that we are incapable of sorting this out at our level. I've explained why, and that is the reality of it. If you do not have the ability to play fixtures midweek in the darker months, then you cannot have a workable fixture list.Once you have the Junior Cup underway with replays and postponements that take priority over every other fixture, as well as the one or two clubs that have senior Scottish Cup games that take priority over Junior Cup, then it would fall apart completely by December.The best we could hope for is a better approach to providing fixtures eg. in 6 week blocks, rather than getting to the turn of the year and having a maximum of 2 weeks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van magic Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 16 team super league is too much would be 10 or 12 for me, would happily go back to the local leagues too a lothians league would be decent more derbys and far better crowds with more local interest if there was more derbys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravehearts dad Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, Van magic said: 16 team super league is too much would be 10 or 12 for me, would happily go back to the local leagues too a lothians league would be decent more derbys and far better crowds with more local interest if there was more derbys 16 team Super League for me all the time 30 league games in a season. 10 teams would give 18 league game as 12 teams would give 22 games. In that case we could have a league competition Aug- Dec and another league season Jan-May Behave your self. Fair enough The Big Rose have done well since the Super League was conceived having won it 3 times. The table never lies and after 30 games the team on top of the league are deserved Champions. Would you seriously go back to the days of the local leagues? The Rose have done well with crowds not so sure the local derbies would create better crowds and more local interest. C'mon the Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebell1 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Burnie_man said: Because in 2017 most clubs don’t even have floodlights. Without floodlights and the ability to re-arrange postponed games for midweek during the winter, then any fixture list will have completely fallen apart by the time you get to the business end of the season anyway, particularly when weeks of Scottish Cup postponements drive a wrecking ball through it. So rather than moan about something that is not achievable anytime soon, maybe just scrap the pointless play-off and have three up/down. That’s as simple as a club proposing it, and a show of hands at the AGM. Agree except 2 up 2 down is enough imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Exciting end to the season at both ends of the Table. A Jeanfield win tomorrow and Musselburgh down withLinlithgow safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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