DA Baracus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, ftk said: No - Scotland hasn't seen the mass influx of immigrants from eastern Europe yet like the South of England. Let's get out of Europe but stay with the UK the 5th biggest economy in the world. What's wrong with immigrants, or as I like to call them, 'people'? Also do you think we wouldn't trade with the remnants of the UK should we leave? Anyway, it will always be yes for me. I'll be avoiding absolutely everything to do with this as I'll just get annoyed by the lies and stupidity. I'll simply fire down to vote Yes on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Yes in 2014 and Yes this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'll be voting yes. If anything has come of this brexit debacle it has clearly shown we are far from being an equal nation. Nicola proposed a 4 nation veto on brexit. Cameron laughed at it.I laugh at people that will vote no because of this and that. What they don't understand is that through independence we would have far more control. Just now we are at the mercy of middle England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 What's wrong with immigrants, or as I like to call them, 'people'? Also do you think we wouldn't trade with the remnants of the UK should we leave? Anyway, it will always be yes for me. I'll be avoiding absolutely everything to do with this as I'll just get annoyed by the lies and stupidity. I'll simply fire down to vote Yes on the day Nothing wrong with immigrant people at all. Has to be managed though. South of England have huge shortage of hospitals, schools, housing etc. That's why they voted for Brexit and Scotland would have done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I've gone from a no to a very yes. f**k Westminster right in the hairy, loose anus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You do get that with a rapidly ageing population we actually need immigration? Of course we need immigration but on our terms that we can manage and control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, ftk said: Of course we need immigration but on our terms that we can manage and control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Undecided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, ftk said: Of course we need immigration but on our terms that we can manage and control. there's a way it can be on our terms, but most people don't want that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Stat to help people decide. UK 22nd largest population in the world. UK 5th largest economy in the world. We punch well above our weight. Too much of a risk Scotland going on it's own and we will mainly be governed by Europe. Probably also need to adopt the failed euro as our currency too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, ftk said: Nothing wrong with immigrant people at all. Has to be managed though. South of England have huge shortage of hospitals, schools, housing etc. That's why they voted for Brexit and Scotland would have done the same. As somebody who lives in the South of England, the huge of shortage of hospitals, schools and housing is largely caused by councils being told to make cuts wherever possible. The only "housing" that gets built in London these days is luxury apartments for the rich to buy and rent out at extortionate prices. Schools are having to cut subjects just to keep their heads above the water, because local authorities are putting pressure on them to tighten their budget. In terms of hospitals, you only have to look at Jeremy Hunt to see it's not the immigrants who are causing a strain on the NHS. Can't speak for Scotland (although I assume it's largely the same), but the South of England needs immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Would expect it to be a no again but shall make my mind up once the plans are revealed. If the Yes side can make the numbers stack up this time so no drop in living standards or tax rises to cover a deficit then would be happy to vote Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, ftk said: Stat to help people decide. UK 22nd largest population in the world. UK 5th largest economy in the world. We punch well above our weight. Too much of a risk Scotland going on it's own. Can you post the stats about the distribution of that wealth relative to other comparable countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, ftk said: Stat to help people decide. UK 22nd largest population in the world. UK 5th largest economy in the world. We punch well above our weight. Too much of a risk Scotland going on it's own. Japan has 11th largest population and is 4th largest economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, ftk said: Stat to help people decide. UK 22nd largest population in the world. UK 5th largest economy in the world. We punch well above our weight. Too much of a risk Scotland going on it's own and we will mainly be governed by Europe. Probably also need to adopt the failed euro as our currency too. "Punching above one's weight" is nice-sounding cliche, but I note that you ignore the UK's economy being based on it being the second most indebted state on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, AyrExile said: Would expect it to be a no again but shall make my mind up once the plans are revealed. If the Yes side can make the numbers stack up this time so no drop in living standards or tax rises to cover a deficit then would be happy to vote Yes. Taxes will need to go up and quite right too. We need to have a national debate about our expectations for Scandinavian public service at US taxation levels (demonstrative examples) If your living standards aren't currently going down I'm very pleased for you but it's not a universal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Japan has 11th largest population and is 4th largest economy. Makes my stat look even more impressive tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, ftk said: Of course we need immigration but on our terms that we can manage and control. Only a Yes vote will deliver the opportunity for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Only a Yes vote will deliver the opportunity for that. No it wouldn't because we would still be part of Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm a likely yes, but will want to see the plans before fully committing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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