Golum Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The EOS ( ex Juniors ) just want to know if Selkirk going will mean there is 2 promotion slots 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davy Boy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said: be left to play virtually a full season with teams of youth players and wheezing old boilers coming out of retirement to help out, in front of two dozen fans, at some else's ground (Clydebank before they were franchised). Clydebank had 7 or more full international players in the squad during the last season at Cappielow. Average 'home' attendance was just below 400 that season having dropped from 1900 during the final season at Kilbowie. Not quite the comparison you were looking for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Golum said: The EOS ( ex Juniors ) just want to know if Selkirk going will mean there is 2 promotion slots Nope. But there might be an application spot available in addition to any licenced champion gaining promotion. I can't see the LL rejecting an application from one of their members negatively affected by Selkirk's mistakes though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golum Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Would that mean 15th ( out of 15) would then be relegated ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Nope. But there might be an application spot available in addition to any licenced champion gaining promotion. I can't see the LL rejecting an application from one of their members negatively affected by Selkirk's mistakes though. There hasn't been any statement from the LL are you guaranteeing there won't be an automatic relegation from 2nd bottom... I can't see it as you surely can't change the goalposts when a season has started..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Nope. But there might be an application spot available in addition to any licenced champion gaining promotion. I can't see the LL rejecting an application from one of their members negatively affected by Selkirk's mistakes though. We are now in a Pyramid situation, surely there is no longer justification for entry by "application". At the very least, promote the play-off winners if Licenced, then work your way back until the available spots are filled, if that's play-off losers then they go up as well, or a further play-off with the 15th placed club. Will they really conduct the rest of the season with no relegation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Valley Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Statement from Selkirk Vics; Quote SELKIRK VICTORIA STATEMENT We are saddened at the situation that has developed at Selkirk FC which has ultimately resulted in the dispansion of Selkirk's senior football side. As a result of their ongoing financial issues the clubrooms have been closed. The financial problems have been well publicised over the past few weeks but there's no real merit in spending time reflecting on what has happened previously. It should never have came to this but we must look forward. In the future, Selkirk Vics and Selkirk Juniors hope that together we can re-open the clubrooms and take the club forward. We are determined to pull together and re-establish the football club to a standard Selkirk deserves. In the mean time, we will continue to train and play our home games at Yarrow Park. We are in discussions with Selkirk Cricket Club and Selkirk Rugby Club with the view to using their changing facilities when available. We are extremely grateful for their support. The fantastic Junior set up has over 100 youngsters registered at various age groups and the Vics are a club close to the hearts of many in the town. Both have a number of dedicated committee members who are determined to keep football in the town alive. We hope that the town will get behind us in what is sure to be a difficult time off the park. We will try our best to keep you updated on the situation. Until then, we will carry on playing the game we all love. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Will they really conduct the rest of the season with no relegation? How no rules are set at the start do you think EK will be happy losing 3 points and 10 goals likewise Gretna -8 (get drawn back doon into relegation battle) and strollers -4 ? It's a mess but a mess that is not just disabling Selkirk ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, Golum said: Would that mean 15th ( out of 15) would then be relegated ? 51 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: There hasn't been any statement from the LL are you guaranteeing there won't be an automatic relegation from 2nd bottom... I can't see it as you surely can't change the goalposts when a season has started..... When Selkirk were fined the £250 with a further £250 suspended it was said that was the most the LL could do under the circumstances. So let's say they're being sticklers to their rules. When it comes to relegation they reference bottom and second bottom, and not 16th and 15th. So it depends on how the LL end up classing Selkirk's 2018/19 season: 16/16 or wiped entirely. 16/16 = Then 15th only get relegated due to a licenced Tier 6 champion, and the HL champion winning promotion with SPFL42 being a Lowland League area club. Wiped Entirely = Going by the rules that makes 15th relegated and 14th possibly relegated, but chances are there would be a vacancy available so it'd just be a case of re-applying for membership. Unless 15th are of the same mind of Threave a view years ago, i'm sure the LL would accept 15th's application over everyone else. 38 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: We are now in a Pyramid situation, surely there is no longer justification for entry by "application". At the very least, promote the play-off winners if Licenced, then work your way back until the available spots are filled, if that's play-off losers then they go up as well, or a further play-off with the 15th placed club. Will they really conduct the rest of the season with no relegation? The Pyramid didn't just start this season. There's a justification for application for a vacancy by virtue of it being in the rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Burnie_man said: We are now in a Pyramid situation, surely there is no longer justification for entry by "application". It covers the scenario when there is no champion licensed to be promoted. In that case the last placed team still has to reapply to keep their place, and other clubs can apply as well to take potentially be voted in instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The Pyramid didn't just start this season. There's a justification for application for a vacancy by virtue of it being in the rules. It was only last season where there was a a full compliment of 16 clubs and promotion therefore had to be achieved on merit. There is no further justification for entry by application IF we have two or more clubs winning their Conferences/SoS and are Licenced. Sporting merit should be the driver to fill all future vacancies where possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It covers the scenario when there is no champion licensed to be promoted. In that case the last placed team still has to reapply to keep their place, and other clubs can apply as well to take potentially be voted in instead.Ah, re-election! Thats always fair..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimmo's Notes Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Golum said: Would that mean 15th ( out of 15) would then be relegated ? If 15 of the 16 teams resigned from the league, would that mean that the team which finished first would be relegated? An extreme example, obviously, but it could be 2, 3, 4 teams resigning. Why should teams above them be penalised? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlansHotBath Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) Official announcement from the club this evening confirming the inevitable: they are withdrawing from the league Edited August 28, 2018 by AlansHotBath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, AlansHotBath said: Official announcement from the club this evening confirming the inevitable: they are withdrawing the league I'm hoping that by saying they're just by withdrawing from the Lowland League, they can now focus on their financial issues and applying to next year's EoS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Terminology may be getting lost in translation, but Border Telegraph implies they're folding - entire committee resigned (of an unincorporated association), LL and SFA membership going, etc.http://www.bordertelegraph.com/sport/16602379.football-bosses-in-selkirk-reach-the-end-of-the-road/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The normal procedure in the English non-leagues was always to reprieve clubs rather than promote extra clubs from below in situations where clubs go out of business or are demoted. May have changed recently but not sure. Under that system, Selkirk would be treated at the 16th and relegated club even if they have quit the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The LL should automatically relegate the 15th team to set an example to SPFL League Two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, Ginaro said: The LL should automatically relegate the 15th team to set an example to SPFL League Two All depends how the constitution is worded. If it says bottom club as people have been claiming on here and Selkirk are gone with their record completely expunged then interesting times ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Bet you any money that Selkirk will be treated as 16th and 15th will only be a 'possible relegation'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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