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Martin McGuinness resigns, Stormont in chaos


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McGuinness's resignation or a March election isn't going to resolve the RHI debacle. Why didn't the Shinners press for an immediate enquiry presumably that would have included scrutiny of their own endorsement of the scheme!?
Those culpable are then brought to task? The electorate then decides on the facts, not the rest of the smoke screen that's been thrown over this issue.
The current Assembly has only been in place for just eight months, it serves no purpose whatsoever to dissolve it. Even with the reduction in seats by constituency the DUP are predicted to retain a majority at Stormont.
SF throwing their toys out the pram, Health Minister O'Neill stating that they will refuse any further discussions (how do you function otherwise in Politics? ) isn't going to progress the The NI Assembly.
A wider issue is suggested in an article in today's BT.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nelson-mccausland/why-real-reason-for-martin-mcguinness-resignation-is-that-arlene-has-been-running-rings-round-him-35361236.html

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17 minutes ago, RedRob72 said:

McGuinness's resignation or a March election isn't going to resolve the RHI debacle. Why didn't the Shinners press for an immediate enquiry presumably that would have included scrutiny of their own endorsement of the scheme!?
Those culpable are then brought to task? The electorate then decides on the facts, not the rest of the smoke screen that's been thrown over this issue.
The current Assembly has only been in place for just eight months, it serves no purpose whatsoever to dissolve it. Even with the reduction in seats by constituency the DUP are predicted to retain a majority at Stormont.
SF throwing their toys out the pram, Health Minister O'Neill stating that they will refuse any further discussions (how do you function otherwise in Politics? ) isn't going to progress the The NI Assembly.
A wider issue is suggested in an article in today's BT.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nelson-mccausland/why-real-reason-for-martin-mcguinness-resignation-is-that-arlene-has-been-running-rings-round-him-35361236.html

I think Nelson's gilding the lily a wee bit there.

Both the DUP and Sinn Fein seem to be running around in circles.

However, should there be an election, and we vote this pair back in as the largest two parties, we can't complain.

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I think Nelson's gilding the lily a wee bit there.
Both the DUP and Sinn Fein seem to be running around in circles.
However, should there be an election, and we vote this pair back in as the largest two parties, we can't complain.

Nelson's Orange Lily?

I'll get ma coat!
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2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

I think Nelson's gilding the lily a wee bit there.

Both the DUP and Sinn Fein seem to be running around in circles.

However, should there be an election, and we vote this pair back in as the largest two parties, we can't complain.

 

Just now, RedRob72 said:


Nelson's Orange Lily?

I'll get ma coat!

I was actually going to post "not an Easter one", but thought I'd leave it to someone else.

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Martin McGuinness has been diagnosed with anyloidosis, a rare diarised that causes abnormal proteins to be deposited in organs and tissue.

It's a genetic disorder and people from the County Donegal area are particularly susceptible to it.

Life expectancy is six years post-diagnosis.

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8 hours ago, RedRob72 said:

McGuinness's resignation or a March election isn't going to resolve the RHI debacle. Why didn't the Shinners press for an immediate enquiry presumably that would have included scrutiny of their own endorsement of the scheme!?
Those culpable are then brought to task? The electorate then decides on the facts, not the rest of the smoke screen that's been thrown over this issue.
The current Assembly has only been in place for just eight months, it serves no purpose whatsoever to dissolve it. Even with the reduction in seats by constituency the DUP are predicted to retain a majority at Stormont.
SF throwing their toys out the pram, Health Minister O'Neill stating that they will refuse any further discussions (how do you function otherwise in Politics? ) isn't going to progress the The NI Assembly.
A wider issue is suggested in an article in today's BT.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nelson-mccausland/why-real-reason-for-martin-mcguinness-resignation-is-that-arlene-has-been-running-rings-round-him-35361236.html

Nelson McCausland is a complete muppet pandering to the sort in the north that if living in the south would probably be Daily Star readers instead. But he may have missed a trick regarding Gerry Adams deciding all of a sudden to make a big deal of the distasteful commemoration of the throughly evil Sean South - someone plenty within modern Irish Republican circles have viewed as beyond the pale (excuse the pun) to the extent the commemoration two years ago barely scraped a turnout of 250.

In 2007, the main speaker was a certain Martin McGuinness - within months of allegations c/o former British Intelligence officer Martin Ingram (aka Ian Hurst) that McGuinness was an MI6 operative, in other words when he was looking to shore up his credentials with the knuckle draggers. Of course, no one could have predicted what was to happen months later - the DUP became SF's new partners in government, & to the horror of bigots everywhere the Paisley-McGuinness tag team proved an enormous hit (both sharing a remarkable lot in common, including being strict teetotallers), not merely in the UK but abroad - much to Adams' petted lip he was now very much in McGuinness' shadow.

Ten years later & that speech during a memorial for a vicious anti-semite nazi thug is one of those moments McGuinness would probably prefer to forget. A lot of water has flowed under his bridge since then, & like others before him has doubtless experienced a private epiphany over his past actions. Probably he hoped his deputyship under Arlene Foster could prove another Paisley moment when "of all people" old scores would be squashed for doing the right thing together for the common good. It's been pretty clear from day one Foster's had no such intention in practice & is another old school professional bigot (and a carpetbagging one at that) which have been the bane of Northern Ireland for decades.

Then comes Adams appalling pandering to the old school bigots in the south, an act certain to ensure he will never, ever have to take part in a Dail coalition (as every other party would refuse to work in a coalition with him) & risk his cushy career by taking governmental decisions he'd be held accountable to - and an action of course McGuinness cannot criticise.

Add last week's events to the certain matter that McGuinness was told back in December he's got amyloidosis - usually a death sentence within seven years -  and hence the abrupt cancellation of his trade trip to China; and it's no wonder with it all looking like it's about to kick off again "up North" that he's decided to jump ship.

It will be equally no surprise if Gerry Adams now does his level best to do everything possible to wreck any good work McGuinness ever did out of petty spite.

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...in a please remember to take your medication sort of way? Think it's as simple as they want to collapse the "peace process", so they can re-negotiate its terms with Theresa May, if as appears likely, there is a hard Brexit as that has serious implications for the nature of the NI-RoI border. I seriously doubt anyone expected Arlene Foster to go into "Chuckle Brothers" mode with Martin McGuinness rather than having a continuation of the "Brothers Grim" routine that was the order of the day under Peter Robinson. Firstly, she's an unapologetic Fermanagh Unionist with first hand experience of what Sinn Fein get up to when they are wearing balaclavas, and secondly the reason Ian Paisley got ditched was that the "Chuckle Brothers" routine was not going down well with the DUP's core voters.

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3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

...and the final irony will be that he'll die in Londonderry in the United Kingdom. That might make him ponder whether all the murder and mayhem he unleashed was really worth it?

same goes for weeseaweed and fatso. i hope that is rubbed in when they are eventually elevated to death.

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2 minutes ago, Co.Down Hibee said:

Can't say I'll be too distraught when the fucker goes but with Gerry Kelly  having health issues and Adams getting on a bit this could be the time for the newer slightly less hateful faces to move up.

What's wrong with Kelly? Nothing serious, I hope...

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