milton75 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Hillonearth said: Mate of mine's wife is like that - any meal spent in her company is accompanied by the background drone of her attempts to proselytise her worldview. For a quiet life, he's decided to go veggie too...or so she thinks. Any time he's out without her in tow he basically turns into Ted Nugent - couple of pints in and he's eating his bodyweight in doner meat. Sounds like he just needs a less crap wife. Why stay with someone that ultimately harasses you that much? A mate of mine once said he was going to Salsa dancing lessons. When we laughed at this and asked him why he was doing such a thing he said "happy wife, quiet life". I pointed out that in no universe ever, has anyone that is not already predisposed to attending such, ever thought that going to salsa dancing lessons remotely equated to a "quiet life". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Interesting to hear people say "there isn't anything wrong with eating meat." There defintely is.Eating meat is worse for the environment than driving your car for example. Swaths of land are cleared for feeding animals. They are fed tons of food which takes tons of water. They produce tons of methane which contributes to climate change.I'm no vegan but I can defintely understand why they have gone down that path. Gone are the days of hunting. Eating meat has reached unsustainable levels in the western world. Weve been eating meat for 2 million years and farming for tens of thousands of years. Man made climate change started after the industrial revolution not when some primate set fire to a bit of meat. Besides the land cleared for farming of fruit vegetables n wheat crops is equally as bad environmentally as land set aside for grazing. If we werent eating animals there would still be animals creating methane. At least we made mammoths extinct.....a herd of them would be worse than the population of Dundee for methane emissions.( that may not be statistcally accurate ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 What do vegans want to do with all the cows if we stop eating them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 What do vegans want to do with all the cows if we stop eating them? I imagine it would be a case of stopping breeding them for food altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: I imagine it would be a case of stopping breeding them for food altogether. Send them off into the wild with their big flappy udders and see if they survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I was a vegetarian for 17 years - was. I'd like to be a vegan, but I'm a lazy c**t - tell me what to eat, but make it tasty, please, and I'll do it. Before you start, I'm not touching tofu, quern, or fucking humus. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Weve been eating meat for 2 million years and farming for tens of thousands of years. Man made climate change started after the industrial revolution not when some primate set fire to a bit of meat. You're missing the point. How much beef did humans consume only 100 years ago? I'd say our consumption of beef has exploded in this timescale. It is readily available in supermarkets and it is the main meat of choice in most fast food joints. It's a massive money maker and huge numbers of cows are required to meet our demands. Think how much they must eat in the US alone! To nurture the cows requires a monumental amount of resources such as land, feed and water. It's not doing the planet any good IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 You're missing the point. How much beef did humans consume only 100 years ago? I'd say our consumption of beef has exploded in this timescale. It is readily available in supermarkets and it is the main meat of choice in most fast food joints. It's a massive money maker and huge numbers of cows are required to meet our demands. Think how much they must eat in the US alone! To nurture the cows requires a monumental amount of resources such as land, feed and water. It's not doing the planet any good IMO. And how much land is cleared and drained for crops? How many chemicals added to land to fertilise fields, how much pesticides used? How many natural habitats and species have been lost to non meat farming? Rice n wheat production is also enormous but noone is campaigning to see our consumption of that stopped. Eta theres also huge environmental impact from the farming vehicles the processing plants and the transport of these products to supermarkets. Vegans are every bit as damaging to the environment as carnivores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, jamamafegan said: You're missing the point. How much beef did humans consume only 100 years ago? I'd say our consumption of beef has exploded in this timescale. It is readily available in supermarkets and it is the main meat of choice in most fast food joints. It's a massive money maker and huge numbers of cows are required to meet our demands. Think how much they must eat in the US alone! To nurture the cows requires a monumental amount of resources such as land, feed and water. It's not doing the planet any good IMO. My in laws live in Alabama in the deep south of the states. The food quality is awful there because they don't enjoy the moderate climate which is essential for excellent meat. That's why they need to come up with glazes and pulled pork sauces. The Indian Curry market was born out of making average meat more pleasurable. I took them to one of the many Perthshire restaurants and they utterly loved the food quality we have on our door step. Beef, Chicken, Fish, Venison, Scallops. Scotland, and the climate here with ensure out top table position in the league of food exports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I couldn't care if pigs developed consciousness and we're slaughtered in front of their piglets. As bad a thought and feeling as that may be, it still wouldn't outweigh how good bacon tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 8 hours ago, jamamafegan said: You're missing the point. How much beef did humans consume only 100 years ago? I'd say our consumption of beef has exploded in this timescale. It is readily available in supermarkets and it is the main meat of choice in most fast food joints. It's a massive money maker and huge numbers of cows are required to meet our demands. Think how much they must eat in the US alone! To nurture the cows requires a monumental amount of resources such as land, feed and water. It's not doing the planet any good IMO. Beef is fucking delicious. f**k the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I actually forgot there was a vegan in my department until yesterday, she only went vegan last year but enjoys kopparberg's fruit cider. I don't have the heart to tell her the label says not suitable for vegetarians or vegans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I had french toast, a fried egg, bacon and black pudding for my breakfast today. Take that vegans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I had Eggy dip dip, a fried egg, bacon and black pudding for my breakfast today. Take that vegans. Ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, deej said: Ftfy Calling French toast "eggy dip dip" is on a par with whoever it was on here that called tomato soup tommy soup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Calling French toast "eggy dip dip" is on a par with whoever it was on here that called tomato soup tommy soup. Agree, it's quite clearly eggy bread as its neither French nor toasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I just love a veggie brekkie - eggs, beans, hash browns, grilled tomato, tattie scone, mushrooms... Throw in a couple of Richmond sausages, a couple rashers of back bacon (unsmoked) bit of Speyside black pudding and hey presto - The Perfect Breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, deej said: Agree, it's quite clearly eggy bread as its neither French nor toasted ^^^ OFTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 ^^^ OFTW Keep pushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It's a cheap shot but.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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