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1 hour ago, RiG said:

Trump wasn't scheduled to attend the press conference last night but he did because "look at me!"

This was the "highlight"...

Trump continues to push hydroxychloroquine and rebuff criticism of this (presumably an attempt to distract from a lack of ventilators which are meant to be much more effective at combating the breathing difficulties). The President of the AMA has been quoted as saying do not take hydroxychloroquine as it could kill you. But you know, Trump gonna Trump. As long as Fox News pushes this drug he will do likewise.

That right there, in itself, is grounds for his removal from office.  It’s borderline criminally negligent.  

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He must have shares in the manufacturer's !

That right there, in itself, is grounds for his removal from office.  It’s borderline criminally negligent.  

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7 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

He must have shares in the manufacturer's !

Would that be remotely surprising?  

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30 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

Would that be remotely surprising?  

Not shares, but Michael Cohen was paid $1m for access to Trump's healthcare policy in 2016 by them - https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pandemic/major-producer-of-hydroxychloroquine-once-paid-michael-cohen-hefty-sum-for-access-to-trump/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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6 minutes ago, carpetmonster said:

It's brazen corruption.

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IIRC the study that showed that hydroxychloroquine could be beneficial was a small group of patients that only had mild symptoms of COVID-19 and they were very likely to recover. Further studies involving patients that exhibited more severe symptoms of the virus showed that the drug had little to no effect. It's mind boggling he is pushing this so much but given that he gets his intelligence from Fox News and they have been banging on about it I suppose it isn't much of a surprise really.

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43 minutes ago, RiG said:

IIRC the study that showed that hydroxychloroquine could be beneficial was a small group of patients that only had mild symptoms of COVID-19 and they were very likely to recover. Further studies involving patients that exhibited more severe symptoms of the virus showed that the drug had little to no effect. It's mind boggling he is pushing this so much but given that he gets his intelligence from Fox News and they have been banging on about it I suppose it isn't much of a surprise really.

Fox gets its 'intelligence' (yikes) from the WH; it's just Pravda - Trump will have had the investment and then told them to give the stuff big licks so that he can then parrot it back. 

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1 hour ago, RiG said:

IIRC the study that showed that hydroxychloroquine could be beneficial was a small group of patients that only had mild symptoms of COVID-19 and they were very likely to recover. Further studies involving patients that exhibited more severe symptoms of the virus showed that the drug had little to no effect. It's mind boggling he is pushing this so much but given that he gets his intelligence from Fox News and they have been banging on about it I suppose it isn't much of a surprise really.

American doctors who have prescribed it say they have no way of telling if patients got better because of the drug or if they would have got better on their own without it, because there have been no blind trials against placebos. And people who really need it for other conditions that it's been proven to help, can't get hold of it because Trump's got FEMA or whoever to buy up all the stock.

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10 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

American doctors who have prescribed it say they have no way of telling if patients got better because of the drug or if they would have got better on their own without it, because there have been no blind trials against placebos. And people who really need it for other conditions that it's been proven to help, can't get hold of it because Trump's got FEMA or whoever to buy up all the stock.

And if it does prove to work then how long until he tries to do a Martin Shkreli?

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The parasite that causes malaria is nothing like a virus. If hydroxychloroquine is effective then it is down to a monumental piece of good luck.

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Wouldn't surprise me if he's pushing the drug because he wants a quick fix, to distract from the monumental f**k ups he's made of this whole affair, rather than because he stands to make a bit of money from it. Is it not a generic drug anyway? 

I notice the supreme court refused to allow an election to be postponed or even allow more postal voting, so thousands of people are queuing up to vote today in some state that slips my mind. Literally forcing people to risk their lives if they want to vote. 

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42 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Wouldn't surprise me if he's pushing the drug because he wants a quick fix, to distract from the monumental f**k ups he's made of this whole affair, rather than because he stands to make a bit of money from it. Is it not a generic drug anyway? 

I notice the supreme court refused to allow an election to be postponed or even allow more postal voting, so thousands of people are queuing up to vote today in some state that slips my mind. Literally forcing people to risk their lives if they want to vote. 

Mentioned here..

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/05/trump-is-killing-his-own-supporters-coronavirus-covid-19

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1 hour ago, madwullie said:

 

I notice the supreme court refused to allow an election to be postponed or even allow more postal voting, so thousands of people are queuing up to vote today in some state that slips my mind. Literally forcing people to risk their lives if they want to vote. 

Wisconsin. Governor (D) tried to postpone the election (Dem Primary and some state appointments) til June 9. Republicans in the WI Senate appealed, WI Supreme Court overturned him, US Supreme Court approved 5-4 with all the 'conservative' judges voting on party line, because of course they did. RBG openly fucking raging. The huge problem is so many folks have thought 'f**k that' in regards to being polling place staff (and it's not an unfair wage, you get $150-$200 for the day, in Chicago at least) there's no polling places open. Milwaukee County (popn ~1m) apparently has 5 open out of a potential 180. Waukesha, a town of 70,000 people, has one polling station open. 

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