Savage Henry Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Biden and Trump are two cheeks of the same arse.Nah. That’s over simplifying things. There’s a huge difference. Biden’s actually pretty liberal on quite a few issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: It’s a tacit pro Trump position. Do the number of Bernie Bros outweigh the Never Trumpers? Hard to say, but at least the Dems aren’t relying on a mythical youth vote. You are Neera Tandeen and I claim my £500. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Nah. That’s over simplifying things. There’s a huge difference. Biden’s actually pretty liberal on quite a few issues. What ones? Not justice, health care, segregation, gay marriage, war, bankruptcy or sexual abuse. His record is abysmal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: You are Neera Tandeen and I claim my £500. I don't know who that is, and I can only afford you a beer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Nah. That’s over simplifying things. There’s a huge difference. Biden’s actually pretty liberal on quite a few issues. It's all relative to Trump's insanity, of course. If you're putting him into a British spectrum, he's a Lib Dem at most. Affirmative action, women's rights (I think, though it's questionable), climate change. I guess I just take issue with the idea that he's on par with Donald Trump. If you're anything other than a white, middle class male, there's a huge amount of difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 He was against bussing to end segregation, wrote the crime bill that is probably the worst piece of legislation of the past 100 years in the USA and has ruined millions of lives disproportionately African American. He also skewered Anita Hill to get Clarence Thomas onto the Supreme Court. His only strong suit is being portrayed as a friendly uncle on TV since 2008. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: He was against bussing to end segregation, wrote the crime bill that is probably the worst piece of legislation of the past 100 years in the USA and has ruined millions of lives disproportionately African American. He also skewered Anita Hill to get Clarence Thomas onto the Supreme Court. His only strong suit is being portrayed as a friendly uncle on TV since 2008. Don't get me wrong, I don't like him a bit. But given that it's him or Trump, were I American I'd vote for Biden dispassionately and unhesitatingly. It's certainly not two sides of the same coin here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 If it was a choice between a reanimated Charles Manson and Trump, go Charlie and hope you can keep him focused on the music. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 To get real change they need to defeat Democratic elites first. Voting for Biden makes that harder. Bernie or Bust people can still vote blue down ballot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Them black voters sure are dumb. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-black-vote/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Them black voters sure are dumb. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-black-vote/ Same as the dumb white voters who won't vote themselves health care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Detournement said: To get real change they need to defeat Democratic elites first. Voting for Biden makes that harder. Bernie or Bust people can still vote blue down ballot. Not doing that last time put Trump in, something you've repeatedly said was the better choice. What's changed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Nah. That’s over simplifying things. There’s a huge difference. Biden’s actually pretty liberal on quite a few issues. Nah its not, both have a lot in common, Trump’s actually liberal on some issues too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Nah its not, both have a lot in common, Trump’s actually liberal on some issues too. Was, now he does whatever the evangelicals and NRA tell him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Nah its not, both have a lot in common, Trump’s actually liberal on some issues too. Mostly the emoluments clause. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Nah its not, both have a lot in common, Trump’s actually liberal on some issues too. Like what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Would be nice if he picked up Covid-19 after his initial denials and accusations of fake news. Poetic justice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Like what?Scrapping the TPP, Trillion Dollar infrastructure bill, the ‘INSPIRE’ bill, suspending the federal debt ceiling for three months after hurricane harvey. The ‘first step act’ which actually rolls back parts of the bill that biden wrote which saw quite a large number of ethnic minorities put in jail for minor drugs offences under ‘three strikes’. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Calling it now - Trump will win comfortably against Grandpa Simpson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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