D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 A massive win for the left in the NY Democrat primary. 28 year old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez beat Jim Crowley. Here's her platform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 An *actual* socialist rather than a tory being called a socialist. This could cause a few aneurysms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: A massive win for the left in the NY Democrat primary. 28 year old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez beat Jim Crowley. Here's her platform. This is turning into a bit of a pattern, November could be interesting. Passion and big turnout from the left, but will the centre and independents stay at home or vote "anything but Trump"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: This is turning into a bit of a pattern, November could be interesting. Passion and big turnout from the left, but will the centre and independents stay at home or vote "anything but Trump"? It remains to be seen. What was also interesting about this primary was that Cortez managed to push Crowley left on stuff like healthcare and a living wage. All from a crowd funded campaign whilst she was never even interviewed by the NY Times despite this being the first primary challenge in 14 years. This might end up being a pretty significant moment in American politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Another day, another truth-bomb of 'Progressive' brainwashing - only around half know of the existence of propaganda in their media 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On other news, Trumpets believe that Donald tells the truth at least once every 3.4 days. And Fox manages it nearly every weekend when Trump is playing golf at Mar-a- Lago. There is straight undeniable evidence of Trump lying nearly or probably every day he's been in office. I'd like to hear about a single falsehood the MSM have told in that time without immediately apologising and retracting it. And I doubt there were more than a handful of times they got it wrong. Trumpets believing something doesn't make it true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobles Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Another day, another truth-bomb of 'Progressive' brainwashing - only around half know of the existence of propaganda in their media [emoji38]They should stop watching Fox News then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 It remains to be seen. What was also interesting about this primary was that Cortez managed to push Crowley left on stuff like healthcare and a living wage. All from a crowd funded campaign whilst she was never even interviewed by the NY Times despite this being the first primary challenge in 14 years. This might end up being a pretty significant moment in American politics. The more significant one is dickhead being given another Supreme Court pick. Cheerio Roe vs Wade, sayonara marriage equality. Not that Trump gives a flying shite - I'd lay good money that he's paid off more than one woman to get shot of his byproduct - but the lunatic right gon jump on this like a bouncy castle at a playgroup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm not as clued up on American politics as I could be, but the Supreme Court thing just makes no sense to me. Surely no matter what a judge's personal opinions are, Roe v Wade is the precedent that determines that a woman had the right to choose, and the only way a law can say otherwise is surely through an act of congress? Surely it shouldn't matter who is on the bench, just that they uphold all laws as they are currently written? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, carpetmonster said: The more significant one is dickhead being given another Supreme Court pick. Cheerio Roe vs Wade, sayonara marriage equality. Not that Trump gives a flying shite - I'd lay good money that he's paid off more than one woman to get shot of his byproduct - but the lunatic right gon jump on this like a bouncy castle at a playgroup. There is no money in reversing gay marriage or Roe vs Wade so it won't happen. Edited June 28, 2018 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 With Bernie shitting himself on ICE and refusing ghouls service it’s good that we’ve got Ocasio Cortes and Cynthia Nixon on the Democratic ticket for 2020. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 18 hours ago, JamieThomas said: An *actual* socialist rather than a tory being called a socialist. This could cause a few aneurysms. I don't see anything socialist there. People need to Google that word before they throw it around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You don't think a job guarantee - ie full employment planned by the state - is socialist? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Interesting graphic from banana TBF. The issue of fake news and deliberately misleading statements is a concern in today's politics. Fact checking websites like The Ferret, Full Fact and Politifact are really good reads to combat some of this misinformation. However in my view it tends to be the right that suffer more from this fake news. Fox of course is no stranger to spreading lies and here is just another example which the right seems to be using as a defence of Trump and his child separation policy.http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 27/06/2018 at 09:42, banana said: Woke black lady who dared to go off the 'Progressive's black plantation giving a proper teltin to the usual middle-class racist feminist over child separation. #trump2020 Lol. You didn't even watch this video before you posted it did you ? You just wanted an excuse to use the progressive plantation thing when you clocked the black 'conservative' shouting at the 'liberal'. You must have some sort of bet going where you have to try and shoehorn 'progressive' into every post. As a result it's showing you up as being a massive hypocrite. A lot of folk get upset on this forum when posters reply to your posts, never mind the posts themselves. Although I pretty much disagree with almost everything you say, I genuinely think that on rare occasions you do start some thought provoking stuff. Your recent output is fucking woeful though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: I'm not as clued up on American politics as I could be, but the Supreme Court thing just makes no sense to me. Surely no matter what a judge's personal opinions are, Roe v Wade is the precedent that determines that a woman had the right to choose, and the only way a law can say otherwise is surely through an act of congress? Surely it shouldn't matter who is on the bench, just that they uphold all laws as they are currently written? I think you’re mixing up what should be and what is. Conventions have gone out the window. The Supreme Court is highly politicised; far more now than at any time in the past. The fact that this is happening at a time when the population is divided like never before and at a time when right-wing populism is rampant is frightening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Detournement said: There is no money in reversing gay marriage or Roe vs Wade so it won't happen. That’s pretty naive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 48 minutes ago, RiG said: Interesting graphic from banana TBF. The issue of fake news and deliberately misleading statements is a concern in today's politics. Fact checking websites like The Ferret, Full Fact and Politifact are really good reads to combat some of this misinformation. However in my view it tends to be the right that suffer more from this fake news. Fox of course is no stranger to spreading lies and here is just another example which the right seems to be using as a defence of Trump and his child separation policy.http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/ You do have to question the intelligence of anyone who completely trusts the media. There isn't a media outlet I've came across that isn't shamelessly agenda-driven at some level. The "MSM" have to take some of the blame for the loss of public trust. The problem with people who dismiss everything they don't like as "fake news" is a lot of them seem to fill the void by listening to folk who think school shootings are staged. Hard to know where media and journalism goes from here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I think you’re mixing up what should be and what is. Conventions have gone out the window. The Supreme Court is highly politicised; far more now than at any time in the past. The fact that this is happening at a time when the population is divided like never before and at a time when right-wing populism is rampant is frightening. No I get it's polarised like nothing else in American history since slavery, I just don't understand the machinations of it. What role do the judges actually have in policy and does it ultimately matter who believes what? Is much rather judges based their verdicts on the individual case in front of them rather than based on their personal values anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Lol. You didn't even watch this video before you posted it did you ? You just wanted an excuse to use the progressive plantation thing when you clocked the black 'conservative' shouting at the 'liberal'. You must have some sort of bet going where you have to try and shoehorn 'progressive' into every post. As a result it's showing you up as being a massive hypocrite. A lot of folk get upset on this forum when posters reply to your posts, never mind the posts themselves. Although I pretty much disagree with almost everything you say, I genuinely think that on rare occasions you do start some thought provoking stuff. Your recent output is fucking woeful though. Of course I watched it, Hends. I've watched a decent amount of the black lady's (Candace Owens) output since the time of her very first video when she was a YouTube nobody. I've been following her rise. The 'Progressive'/Democrat 'black plantation' framing is her own Reread your post, will you admit to how mistaken you are? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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