Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Savage Henry said: He was never a socialist, at any rate. A big government centrist liberal. He’s significantly more intelligent than Tucker Carlson, who sold his brain at the same moment he sold his soul in the name of Trump. That being said, Obama’s presidency was dignified, measured and, while not radical in any shape, probably more progressive than any other US president since Carter. The further a presidential candidate moves towards the left in the US, the more they alienate the swing voters. Those swing voters are more inclined to permit a right wing agenda (as we saw with Trump) than a “radical” leftist position like Sanders (who is actually not really all that left wing at all by UK standards). The Democrats can’t behave in the same way as the Republicans. Almost every single poll says that Biden is the best bet to beat the Wotsit shitgibbon. Any reasoned analysis would suggest that Biden is the least progressive, least radical candidate running (other than the halfwit DINO Tulsi Gabbard, who would alienate so many Democrat voters that Trump would win in a landslide). Of course, the Zero Hedge/Inforwars position is that Obama was a war-monger and Trump is the pacifist. Obama, in fact, was largely a foreign relations Realist with much in keeping with Clinton. I’d love a George McGovern style candidate, but look what happened to him. 2020 is purely about beating Trump in the swing states, and Biden is hands down the best chance to do that. Policy wise is a completely different ballgame. Biden is a compromise too far. For one thing he would give a pardon to Trump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Obama's big mistake was trying to seek cross party consensus when he had majority control in Congress, instead of forcing through a radical agenda, especially on healthcare. Instead he ended up with a half cocked healthcare plan that pleased no one, and was effectively a lame duck President for his last 6 years with Republicans blocking everything with his name on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Of course, the Zero Hedge/Inforwars position is that Obama was a war-monger and Trump is the pacifist. Obama, in fact, was largely a foreign relations Realist with much in keeping with Clinton. Clinton was absolutely furious he didn't go to full scale war with Syria. He also gets the blame for the rise of ISIS by pulling loads of troops out of Iraq, but I think the Iraqi government insisted on that. Edited November 17, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 The obese c**t had a two hour unscheduled medical appointment. I hope it’s nothing minor and he dies a horrible slow death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The obese c**t had a two hour unscheduled medical appointment. I hope it’s nothing minor and he dies a horrible slow death. The results are in from the checkup. The president has the body of a 37 year old, an IQ of eleventy hundred and has grown 8 inches in height since taking office. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: The results are in from the checkup. The president has the body of a 37 year old, an IQ of eleventy hundred and has grown 8 inches in height since taking office. Old news. Ivanka's 38 these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: The results are in from the checkup. The president has the body of a 37 year old, an IQ of eleventy hundred and has grown 8 inches in height since taking office. He should give it back, he’s getting it all wrinkled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Is this c**t no deid yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Is this c**t no deid yet? Brain dead and heartless, but technically still alive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 The Supreme Court has issued a stay on an order for the release of Trump’s tax returns. They will now decide whether to hear the challenge from Trump to the ruling. If they decide not to hear the challenge the tax returns will need to be released. If they decide to go with a hearing it will be interesting to see the final decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Hope Ruth Ginsberg survives long enough to make it happen. When his taxes come out it will probably just show that he legally avoided taxes and is much less wealthy than he pretends. Most of his so called properties are just projects he sold his brand name for others to use, the value of which has plummeted. Any shady money laundering and fraudulent borrowing, if the details were in his returns, would have probably already been acted on by the IRS. Showing that he's a mere millionaire instead of a billionaire after all that money his daddy gave him would make him cry though, which would be nice. And the details could be useful to investigative journalists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Explosive news on MSNBC tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 8 hours ago, JamieThomas said: Explosive news on MSNBC tonight. Obviously pro-Trump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 This impeachment is boring as f**k. In other news House Dems are renewing the Patriot Act and Mike Pompeo has set the table for Israel to claim most of the West Bank as their own territory at some point next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Detournement said: This impeachment is boring as f**k. In other news House Dems are renewing the Patriot Act and Mike Pompeo has set the table for Israel to claim most of the West Bank as their own territory at some point next year. Shhhhht, you'll be called an "anti-semite" for speaking such truths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Speculating about Trump's health is 'dangerous,' but Hillary Clinton's was fair game? https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/11/19/trump-health-hypocrisy-2016-clinton-smears-speculation-dangerous-column/4230547002/ Good point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Impeachment coverage now live on CNN (Sky 506). Riveting !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Impeachment coverage now live on CNN (Sky 506). Riveting !!!I’ve been watching a lot of it as well. There are some monumental idiots on the Republican side - Jim Jordan and Devin Nunez particularly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It can only be a matter of time before someone produces a pearl-handled revolver and plugs someone.And think of the ratings ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: I’ve been watching a lot of it as well. There are some monumental idiots on the Republican side - Jim Jordan and Devin Nunez particularly. It's a straight divide, but under oath, there might be the key damning statement that brings the donny down. Here's hoping 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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