renton Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, RiG said: I know it's been posted on the thread about the Notre Dame fire but worth recording it here for posterity. Maybe that's what Boeing should do with their 737-Maxes.... SYNERGY! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiepiemuncher Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I know it's been posted on the thread about the Notre Dame fire but worth recording it here for posterity. Love the French authorities response. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 The Mueller report looks like it has whitewashed the set up. It also emphasises Mifsud's connections to Russia and ignores his far stronger links to British and Italian intelligence agencies. And apparently Stefan Halper isn't even mentioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 That was very quick reading, it's only just been released, non searchable and 448 pages. https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, welshbairn said: That was very quick reading, it's only just been released, non searchable and 448 pages. https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf There is a huge number of people reading it and tweeting about it. Just Twitter search who you are interested in and screenshots pop up. The fact that it doesn't mention that the Russian lawyer met with a paid operative of the Clinton campaign before and after the meeting tells you Mueller isn't playing straight. Edited April 18, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, welshbairn said: That was very quick reading, it's only just been released, non searchable and 448 pages. https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf The next couple of days will be folk reading up on Twitter purely the political and legal folk who say things they like. I'll do that as well. It'll take several days for any kind of consensus to come out, and even then people will only read what they want to read. Slow news is called for here, and people making rush judgements on Fox and MSNBC are helping nobody. Once RT comes out with an official editorial, it'll be safe to assume the polar opposite is true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: The next couple of days will be folk reading up on Twitter purely the political and legal folk who say things they like. I'll do that as well. It'll take several days for any kind of consensus to come out, and even then people will only read what they want to read. Slow news is called for here, and people making rush judgements on Fox and MSNBC are helping nobody. Once RT comes out with an official editorial, it'll be safe to assume the polar opposite is true. Might just read the thing, a warning that the whole thing is scanned and takes half an hour to download. From what I've read it makes for a great movie, secret meetings between private military bosses and FSB operatives in the Seychelles, Manafort feeding GRU with precise targets for borderline states from polling data. But no doubt Rizzau has already read the whole thing and found that a Democrat wasn't mentioned when they weren't under investigation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) Despite Trump saying there was no obstruction a theme emerging from the report is that Trump did try to obstruct the investigation and the only reason that there was none was that the aides he instructed to carry out his orders completely ignored him https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-47817596?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5cb8ad73739f02066581792a%26No obstruction by Trump because others failed%262019-04-18T17%3A01%3A40.589Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a4fc8e17-3262-4e21-a762-bb7f56d76c2f&pinned_post_asset_id=5cb8ad73739f02066581792a&pinned_post_type=share Edited April 18, 2019 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, RiG said: Despite Trump saying there was no obstruction a theme emerging from the report is that Trump did try to obstruct the investigation and the only reason that there was none was that the aides he instructed to carry out his orders completely ignored him https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-47817596?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5cb8ad73739f02066581792a%26No obstruction by Trump because others failed%262019-04-18T17%3A01%3A40.589Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a4fc8e17-3262-4e21-a762-bb7f56d76c2f&pinned_post_asset_id=5cb8ad73739f02066581792a&pinned_post_type=share So you’re saying Trump lied???!!! I find that hard to believe. Looks like his lapdog Barr has down everything he can to downplay this. I can just about forgive the US people for electing this guy in 2016, but in the highly unlikely event he wins a second term they should never be forgiven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So you’re saying Trump lied???!!! I find that hard to believe. He's a pathological liar and has been for years. The report merely confirms this but his supporters won't care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RiG said: He's a pathological liar and has been for years. The report merely confirms this but his supporters won't care. Yeah, going back to my other point, I think next time around he will get the support of his hardcore base and few others. Even the inconsistencies of the electoral college system won’t see him over the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Yeah, going back to my other point, I think next time around he will get the support of his hardcore base and few others. Even the inconsistencies of the electoral college system won’t see him over the line. From what I gather, he could be in a spot of bother once he's out of office. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So you’re saying Trump lied???!!! I find that hard to believe. Looks like his lapdog Barr has down everything he can to downplay this. I can just about forgive the US people for electing this guy in 2016, but in the highly unlikely event he wins a second term they should never be forgiven. Bill Barr is getting it tight pretty much right across the board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: From what I gather, he could be in a spot of bother once he's out of office. Good to see you are back in the saddle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: Good to see you are back in the saddle Not sure what that means at all, but it's fairly (if not legally) obvious that nothing was going to happen to him while he was in office. Edited April 18, 2019 by Savage Henry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So you’re saying Trump lied???!!! I find that hard to believe. Looks like his lapdog Barr has down everything he can to downplay this. I can just about forgive the US people for electing this guy in 2016, but in the highly unlikely event he wins a second term they should never be forgiven. On 24/03/2019 at 22:14, Granny Danger said: Trump has bought Mueller off, there needs to be an investigation of Mueller’s financial holdings. So you have given up trying to pedal your conspiracy theory that Mueller had been bought off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Might just read the thing, a warning that the whole thing is scanned and takes half an hour to download. From what I've read it makes for a great movie, secret meetings between private military bosses and FSB operatives in the Seychelles, Manafort feeding GRU with precise targets for borderline states from polling data. But no doubt Rizzau has already read the whole thing and found that a Democrat wasn't mentioned when they weren't under investigation.I’ve just downloaded it. It’s my weekend reading for the next few weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, dorlomin said: So you have given up trying to pedal your conspiracy theory that Mueller had been bought off. Only an incredibly stupid person would not realise that the second post you quoted was complete sarcasm. I’m pretty sure that was mentioned after I originally posted it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 SHS confirmed as a lying witch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Only an incredibly stupid person would not realise that the second post you quoted was complete sarcasm. So you were supporting Mueller with sarcasm when all we had was Barr's very biased version of his report. Yeah mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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