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On 5/11/2018 at 07:33, Zetterlund said:

I remember an old thread predicting what the next year's major news stories would be, not sure of the year but it was before anyone had heard of ISIS. I thought back then Syria would turn into another Iraq style invasion but they opted for funnelling weapons and money to jihadi proxies instead.

It's the '7 countries in 5 years' PNAC plan playing out, although they didn't count on Putin saying "that's plenty" in Syria. Iran and Lebanon have still to be ticked off the list. 

That's just a recollection of Wesley Clark on how the declaration of war was internally announced to him. None of PNAC's documents say anything about 7 countries in 5 years.

In fact the most famous one "Clean Break" explicitly talks about "containment" of the Syrian government and not regime change. That's in contrast to the call in the document for overthrow  of Saddam.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140125123844/http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

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On 14/05/2018 at 02:56, Fullerene said:

Good point, however, in practice, a lot of people don't object to all nuclear weapons - only those that might be pointed at them.

We call these people hypocrites.

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10 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Dead now.

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Israeli soldiers have killed 52 Palestinians today, & injured 2,410 - Death toll includes 6 children - 1,204 Palestinians shot with *live fire* - 40 of the injured are in critical condition

 

The US say Israel has a right to defend itself.

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20 minutes ago, Jdog said:

 

Israeli soldiers have killed 52 Palestinians today, & injured 2,410 - Death toll includes 6 children - 1,204 Palestinians shot with *live fire* - 40 of the injured are in critical condition

 

The US say Israel has a right to defend itself.

 

Especially when the mid term election is fast approaching.

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Israeli soldiers have killed 52 Palestinians today, & injured 2,410 - Death toll includes 6 children - 1,204 Palestinians shot with *live fire* - 40 of the injured are in critical condition
 
The US say Israel has a right to defend itself.

Israeli spokeswoman has said they can't put them all in jail.
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2 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said:

We can't have "The World" declared antisemitic.

Folk using group identity victimhood as a shield from criticism and a stick to hit with.

Sounds familiar...:whistle

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12 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 


That’s the quandary for Israel

They need to build concentration camps to make room for them

Or

Pursue peaceful coexistence

At the moment they haven’t got the guts to do either

 

If you go back and read stuff people like Sharon and netanyahu have said in the past their aim is to make life so unbearable for the Palestinians they eventually leave/die in such large numbers the remainder can be absorbed into Israel without significantly altering the demographics. 

They are not and never have been remotely interested in peace which they could have had over twenty years ago. They want victory and conquest and are basically conducting a state sponsored genocide lasting decades against a people they view as inferior. Israel are today's Nazis.

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48 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 


That’s the quandary for Israel

They need to build concentration camps to make room for them

Or

Pursue peaceful coexistence

At the moment they haven’t got the guts to do either

 

The Palestinians in Gaza already live in a concentration camp, and the Israelis have no interest in Co-existing with them.

The party line from the Israelis is 'its Hamases fault' even the Whitehouse is repeating this and more disgracefully 'Labour Friends of Israel' as well.

Israeli minister for propaganda, Mark Regrev, said hamas wanted to break into Jerusalem and kill Israelis, and that the IDf were "surgical with their strikes" and that they were killing terrorists!

Hundreds of children shot , a baby killed by tear gas, but its Hamases fault' because they hide behind children.

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Even Chuck Schumer praises Trump for the disgusting right to self-determination :o

Schumer Praises Trump for Embassy Move

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“In a long overdue move, we have moved our embassy to Jerusalem,” Schumer said in a statement. “Every nation should have the right to choose its capital. I sponsored legislation to do this two decades ago, and I applaud President Trump for doing it.”

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48 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Some israelie dude says its all the fault of hamas

Yeah, using the words Hamas and terrorism seems to be the deflection.  I wonder if and when the world will begin to boycott Israel like they boycotted apartheid?

 

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