The Official Former President Trump thread

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, mjw said:

He couldn't get Obama on his birth certificate so he's just going to wipe his two terms off the books.
Racist gonna racist.

No difference from him having a go at Schwarzenegger for taking over The Apprentice. He really doesn't care about anything else. I believe the story about him paying to watch Russian prostitutes pissing on the bed in Moscow that the Obamas slept on.  His whole thing about the NFL is because they didn't think he was financially stable enough to run a member team. 

Edited October 13, 2017 by welshbairn

[J_Stewart]

He told the FRC that under his watch they're Going to take the phrase Merry Christmas back as you're not allowed to say it anymore because political correctness has gone mad.

The President of the United States has gone full scale yer da.

[Granny Danger]

At a time when the handful of adults in the Trumo administration are trying to dial down the potential for conflict with North Korea, Trump, once again, makes their job harder by showing total disregard for a UN sponsored multilateral accord.

I have been critical in the past of politicians in the US not doing enough to condemn him.  Other world leaders will have to start being more condemnatory.

 

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

13 hours ago, RiG said:

   

Bro, this isn't complicated. When people are asked why they are proud to be American, you will very rarely hear people mention our government or one of its programs. In fact, we tend to hate and disrespect our own government for the most part. You are very likely to hear about areas where the government is specifically prohibited. Free speech, the Bill of Rights, etc. Or you will hear things about our culture. Individualism, a place where anybody can succeed, a massive country where there's a place for whatever you like, etc. For most people the flag is the representation of the people and culture, not the state or government. It's the same in lots of nations. Perhaps this is part of the disconnect between black and white people on this protest. It does seem to me that black people are more likely to view the flag as a representation of the government. 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

Bro, this isn't complicated. When people are asked why they are proud to be American, you will very rarely hear people mention our government or one of its programs. In fact, we tend to hate and disrespect our own government for the most part. You are very likely to hear about areas where the government is specifically prohibited. Free speech, the Bill of Rights, etc. Or you will hear things about our culture. Individualism, a place where anybody can succeed, a massive country where there's a place for whatever you like, etc. For most people the flag is the representation of the people and culture, not the state or government. It's the same in lots of nations. Perhaps this is part of the disconnect between black and white people on this protest. It does seem to me that black people are more likely to view the flag as a representation of the government. 

^^^ didn’t bother clicking on link before commenting

[DA Baracus]

Just what in the f**k is this;

 

https://video.vice.com/en_uk/video/donald-trump39s-usa-freedom-kids/56a1103f02e537f360976192

[EdgarusQPFC]

6 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

Bro, this isn't complicated. When people are asked why they are proud to be American, you will very rarely hear people mention our government or one of its programs. In fact, we tend to hate and disrespect our own government for the most part. You are very likely to hear about areas where the government is specifically prohibited. Free speech, the Bill of Rights, etc. Or you will hear things about our culture. Individualism, a place where anybody can succeed, a massive country where there's a place for whatever you like, etc. For most people the flag is the representation of the people and culture, not the state or government. It's the same in lots of nations. Perhaps this is part of the disconnect between black and white people on this protest. It does seem to me that black people are more likely to view the flag as a representation of the government. 

And with those rights you are allowed to chose not to honour the flag or the theme song if you feel there are things fundamentally wrong with your country. 

[bob the tank]

If you don't like your government, you can always declare yourself sovereign, Swampy

[Fullerene]

8 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said:

Bro, this isn't complicated. When people are asked why they are proud to be American, you will very rarely hear people mention our government or one of its programs. In fact, we tend to hate and disrespect our own government for the most part. You are very likely to hear about areas where the government is specifically prohibited. Free speech, the Bill of Rights, etc. Or you will hear things about our culture. Individualism, a place where anybody can succeed, a massive country where there's a place for whatever you like, etc. For most people the flag is the representation of the people and culture, not the state or government. It's the same in lots of nations. Perhaps this is part of the disconnect between black and white people on this protest. It does seem to me that black people are more likely to view the flag as a representation of the government. 

Black players are protesting about the "culture" in the USA where there is an accusation of police brutality towards black people.
The discussion should be about whether that accusation is true or not - not about the flag or the national anthem.

The black players are protesting peacefully and I would say respectfully.  They are not rioting or anything like that.  They are making a silent protest.
If Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi did something similar - you would admire it.

All these complaints about the national anthem and the flag are a smoke screen to avoid talking about how blacks and others are treated in America.
 

[Savage Henry]

Black players are protesting about the "culture" in the USA where there is an accusation of police brutality towards black people.
The discussion should be about whether that accusation is true or not - not about the flag or the national anthem.
The black players are protesting peacefully and I would say respectfully.  They are not rioting or anything like that.  They are making a silent protest.
If Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi did something similar - you would admire it.
All these complaints about the national anthem and the flag are a smoke screen to avoid talking about how blacks and others are treated in America.
 

White players are also making the same protest. Don’t make this an absolutist debate, as Trump would have you do.

[Fullerene]

29 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

 

 

White players are also making the same protest. Don’t make this an absolutist debate, as Trump would have you do.

 

Yeah.  You are right. 

[MrSpikey]

13 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Just what in the f**k is this;

 

https://video.vice.com/en_uk/video/donald-trump39s-usa-freedom-kids/56a1103f02e537f360976192

A priceless moment from the Trump campaign?

Not quite as priceless as when they subsequently initiated court proceedings against Trump for not paying their agreed appearance fees,

[EdgarusQPFC]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/11/trump-suggests-nbc-and-other-networks-should-penalized-after-nuclear-arsenal-story/753373001/

"Trump threatens NBC and other networks after nuclear arsenal story"

[doulikefish]

A priceless moment from the Trump campaign?
Not quite as priceless as when they subsequently initiated court proceedings against Trump for not paying their agreed appearance fees,

Sort it on monday,weekends are for golfing

[DA Baracus]

11 minutes ago, EdgarusQPFC said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/11/trump-suggests-nbc-and-other-networks-should-penalized-after-nuclear-arsenal-story/753373001/

"Trump threatens NBC and other networks after nuclear arsenal story"

Translation; bad men are saying stuff he doesn't like and he wants big boys to stop them saying it.

What a big fucking toddler. I really hope he dies soon

[Cerberus]

John McCain has been awarded the Liberty Award.

[Arabdownunder]

2 hours ago, Cerberus said:

John McCain has been awarded the Liberty Award.

 

I like people that weren't captured.

[Swarley]

Claiming he's the only President to call the families of dead service personnel now. What a great President he is, the best.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/16/trump-says-most-former-presidents-didnt-call-families-slain-troops-then-backs-away/769248001/

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

 

43 minutes ago, Swarley said:

Claiming he's the only President to call the families of dead service personnel now. What a great President he is, the best.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/16/trump-says-most-former-presidents-didnt-call-families-slain-troops-then-backs-away/769248001/

He was getting shit on by the press for not immediately calling the families of a few soldiers who recently died. He is correct that former Presidents did not call every family member, but he obviously stated it in a rude and inarticulate way. 

[TheProgressiveLiberal]

On ‎10‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 12:41, Fullerene said:

Black players are protesting about the "culture" in the USA where there is an accusation of police brutality towards black people.
The discussion should be about whether that accusation is true or not - not about the flag or the national anthem.

The black players are protesting peacefully and I would say respectfully.  They are not rioting or anything like that.  They are making a silent protest.
If Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi did something similar - you would admire it.

All these complaints about the national anthem and the flag are a smoke screen to avoid talking about how blacks and others are treated in America.
 

Blacks are treated differently in America, just not when it comes to police shootings. It's nonsense. Different ethnic groups are shot by the police in proportion to the amount of violent crimes committed by individuals in different ethnic groups. Our juries have a habit of requiring extraordinary circumstances when it comes to putting cops in jail for shootings, no matter the race of the cop or the victim. They don't go to jail for making an honest mistake. They certainly don't go to jail when defending themselves from violent criminals, as with Mike Brown. This has been the case for as long as there's been an America, going back to the colonial Boston jury letting off the British soldiers involved in the Boston massacre.

Again, having consistent standards which result in different outcomes for different races is not racism. We should not be necessarily required to alter our standards just because there are different racial outcomes. Most people believe, and I think correctly believe, that a large portion of the different outcomes come down to different average behavior among individuals of different races.