TheProgressiveLiberal Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, KarlMarx said: Not as cringeworthy as your posts on here. I'd judge myself less cringeworthy than a bunch of BLM activists rampaging through a hipster coffee shop chanting about white spaces. Somehow they think this makes their cause more sympathetic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Nike has a statement out on the NFL protesters. "Nike supports athletes and their right to free expression on issues that are of great importance to our society." This is the same company that fired Manny Pacquio for his comments on homosexuality. Is Manny Pacquiao's homophobia really comparable to the current situation in the NFL ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: I'd judge myself less cringeworthy than a bunch of BLM activists rampaging through a hipster coffee shop chanting about white spaces. Somehow they think this makes their cause more sympathetic. Where do Nazis carrying tiki torches and chanting 'Jews will not replace us' come on your cringe list ? Less cringeworthy than BLM ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Is Manny Pacquiao's homophobia really comparable to the current situation in the NFL ? Either Nike supports "free expression" for their athletes or they don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Where do Nazis carrying tiki torches and chanting 'Jews will not replace us' come on your cringe list ? Less cringeworthy than BLM ? Their haircuts and choice of tiki torches are very cringeworthy. About equal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlMarx Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Their haircuts and choice of tiki torches are very cringeworthy. About equal. Although as they're white you don't really mind them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Either Nike supports "free expression" for their athletes or they don't. Nike also has a duty of care to its other athletes and staff, many of whom will be LGBTQ. In both instances, Nike are doing what's best for Nike and their profit margins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Either Nike supports "free expression" for their athletes or they don't. Maybe, just maybe Nike dont want their brand associated with bigotry. The "free" in free speech does not refer to the consequences. Edited September 28, 2017 by Todders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 18 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Go click on the links to the individual players on that list. Outside of the Canadians almost all of them moved to the US as child immigrants with their families. Incorrect. Quick look shows 4 Aussies, 5 Englishmen, 5 assorted Europeans and 3 others who went to America as adults. Must stop replying to your tendentious shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Nike also has a duty of care to its other athletes and staff, many of whom will be LGBTQ. In both instances, Nike are doing what's best for Nike and their profit margins. Uh, I'd wager more people in the US are offended by someone disrespecting the flag when compared to someone arguing against the morality of homosexuality. And many of their athletes and staff are not LGBTQ. Somewhere around 3-4% if their demo matches the population at large. Nike is thinking about their corporate values, not their bottom line. They want to be inclusive to LGBTQ people and ostracize people who oppose them. They don't really care if people are offended by protests that are viewed as an attack on American identity by a large percentage of the population. I'm personally for free speech by employees as a corporate value. For that reason it annoys me when corporations who are not actually behind free speech try to use that principle to hide from a controversial stance. 4 hours ago, Arabdownunder said: Incorrect. Quick look shows 4 Aussies, 5 Englishmen, 5 assorted Europeans and 3 others who went to America as adults. Must stop replying to your tendentious shite. Are you fuckin serious? Do you know how many people put on a uniform over the course of an NFL season? That list you linked to has people who are on practice squads for two weeks or who were offseason/preseason signees only. Each NFL team generally has between 65 and 80 players per year when you factor in injured reserve and practice squad. Much higher when you get to the offseason/preseason guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 hours ago, KarlMarx said: Although as they're white you don't really mind them. I go out of my way to avoid hipsters in social settings, and I don't try to avoid many types of people. They generally tip me well, though. So I have mixed views on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 There's videos of idiotic rednecks burning nfl merch while playing the national anthem and standing in salute. We are exploring new levels of cringe never seen. That was my original thought until I remembered old firm fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Reports just coming in that the man wot won it for Trump died just over a week ago. Fake news? Gotta be ripe for conspiracy theorists............................ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41422827 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Uh, I'd wager more people in the US are offended by someone disrespecting the flag when compared to someone arguing against the morality of homosexuality. Perhaps, although that says more about 'people in the US' than it does about Nike tbh. Also, did Paquaio not say something along the lines of 'gays are animals', or 'less than animals' ? If so, that goes beyond your description of 'arguing against the morality of homosexuality'. 1 hour ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: And many of their athletes and staff are not LGBTQ. Somewhere around 3-4% if their demo matches the population at large. Nike employs around 77,000 people worldwide. So around 3-3500 employees, although I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. 1 hour ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Nike is thinking about their corporate values, not their bottom line. They want to be inclusive to LGBTQ people and ostracize people who oppose them. I'm struggling to see any issues with Nike's stance here. 1 hour ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: They don't really care if people are offended by protests that are viewed as an attack on American identity by a large percentage of the population. I'd be more inclined to take your and other Trump supporters tear stained mewlings on 'disrespecting America and the flag' more seriously if you were equally condemning of Trump and his comments on McCain and PoWs. 1 hour ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: I'm personally for free speech by employees as a corporate value. For that reason it annoys me when corporations who are not actually behind free speech try to use that principle to hide from a controversial stance. It's equally annoying when people hide behind the principle of free speech to deliberately offend and incite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Indeed. 50,000 odd rednecks regularly converge in Glasgow for a similar stance. Can't help but have the images of **** burning their season tickets because a catholic joined their club in my mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 31 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: Can't help but have the images of **** burning their season tickets because a catholic joined their club in my mind. Did that actually happen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Did that actually happen? Yip i remember it being on the news when mo johnson signed even though john spencer had been there for years the thick bigots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, doulikefish said: Yip i remember it being on the news when mo johnson signed even though john spencer had been there for years the thick bigots Indeed. Didn't some thick (Larkhall?) bigots publish weekly league tables which excluded Johnson's goals i.e. if Rangers won 1-0 and he scored, they counted it as a 0-0 draw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Indeed. Didn't some thick (Larkhall?) bigots publish weekly league tables which excluded Johnson's goals i.e. if Rangers won 1-0 and he scored, they counted it as a 0-0 draw? That i dont know but wouldnt surprise me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 As President of the United States of America, I wonder where Donald Trump finds the time to send these tweets. I have this image of Trump in some room with numerous officials from the White House, the Pentagon and the State Department. He is sitting typing into his phone muttering "NFL scumbags" while somebody is saying "Mister President. Sir. We were discussing what to do about North Korea .." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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