welshbairn Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, RiG said: Bizarrely he has posted the exact same tweets again several hours later After intensive analysis it seems he changed "Fake New Media" to "Fake News Media". He can't afford to diss Alex Jones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Not before Alex Jones successfully dissolves family court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefan27 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, RiG said: Bizarrely he has posted the exact same tweets again several hours later But he's really smart though? It's all part of some grand strategy? I also love the "media has a left wing bias" chat. Facts have a left wing bias, if anything the media skews too centric, i.e "90-odd per cent of climate scientists say climate change is real, this blogger says it isn't. Two valid viewpoints there, goodnight!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 There's no doubt whatsoever trump has some extremely clever people behind him. That's how he won. They are having a very nefarious and sinister impact on political discourse though. It was a new way of campaigning, tapping into people's fears, emotions and prejudices, nothing to do with policy, logic or economics. Or even personality. These are the things that have won elections up till now. Not anymore. Trump's team are extremely smart and way ahead of the game, and probably represent the end of democracy as we know it. In twenty or thirty years it's all over. We really are creeping into fascism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo: First Blood Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'd advise everyone to go back and watch the Presidential debates between McCain and Obama from 2008 particularly on the subjects of Russia, Putin and Georgia. Regardless of McCain's many faults, he clearly was very well informed on Russian foreign policy. You'll see in the debate that he talks about watching what will happen in Ukraine, in 2008 he could already see what was likely to happen! President Obama himself doesn't say much wrong at all on those subjects but there is no doubt now, with hindsight, that his policy on Russia was a failure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I see that there's still some 'economic anxiety' in Arizona. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Jambo: First Blood said: I'd advise everyone to go back and watch the Presidential debates between McCain and Obama from 2008 particularly on the subjects of Russia, Putin and Georgia. Regardless of McCain's many faults, he clearly was very well informed on Russian foreign policy. You'll see in the debate that he talks about watching what will happen in Ukraine, in 2008 he could already see what was likely to happen! President Obama himself doesn't say much wrong at all on those subjects but there is no doubt now, with hindsight, that his policy on Russia was a failure. If you mean sponsoring a right wing coup was a bad idea then Obama definitely has to take the blame. It's funny how the candidate that doesn't want war with Russia keeps winning these elections..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Peppino Impastato said: Trump's team are extremely smart and way ahead of the game, and probably represent the end of democracy as we know it. In twenty or thirty years it's all over. We really are creeping into fascism. Trump shitfested his way to a lucky election result that is likely to put a huge hole in the Republicans for years to come. They are highly likely to lose Congress in a couple of months and have wasted an entire election cycle alienating non white voters that they need to start turning Republican. America is undergoing a demographic transition that the 2016 election was something of a dummy spit against, those demographic numbers are not suddenly going to reverse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I see that there's still some 'economic anxiety' in Arizona. Fucking Native Americans, staying in their country stealing jobs from colonial settlers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, dorlomin said: Trump shitfested his way to a lucky election result that is likely to put a huge hole in the Republicans for years to come. They are highly likely to lose Congress in a couple of months and have wasted an entire election cycle alienating non white voters that they need to start turning Republican. America is undergoing a demographic transition that the 2016 election was something of a dummy spit against, those demographic numbers are not suddenly going to reverse. On the face of it yes, but there is nothing, absolutely nothing that the American Right won't stoop to. In recent elections this has resulted in threats, intimidation and in some cases violence towards blacks and Hispanic voters, as well as attempts at outright gerrymandering of electoral rolls in order to disenfranchise those same racial constituences of US citizens. Expect a whole lot more of this in years to come. Only today we learn of Trump's layest blood-curling call to arms when addressing assorted God-bothering fruitloops - these folk willingly buy into this shit, and there are plenty of them. Admittedly, none of this will be happening in Central Manhattan, but there's a host of states and electoral districts where oversight is shall we say less rigorous and cospicuous, and where a few hundred votes can be absolutely vital either way. What they can't overcome though is if everyone with Democratic leanings (small and large 'd') gets off their arses and actually votes, but overcoming their apathy has always been a challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Trump’s latest claims of ‘violence’ if the Democrats win control of the House in November should send a shiver down the spine of any reasonable Republican. Sadly they seem in short supply these days, though some of the small number that exist may stay away from the polling booths this time around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Trump’s latest claims of ‘violence’ if the Democrats win control of the House in November should send a shiver down the spine of any reasonable Republican. Sadly they seem in short supply these days, though some of the small number that exist may stay away from the polling booths this time around. "Civil unrest" Most recent local examples - Matt Lindsay and others on Hampden, Reese-Mogg and others on Brexit, Stewart Regan on deadRangers. There's a theme here and that theme is c***s. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: "Civil unrest" Most recent local examples - Matt Lindsay and others on Hampden, Reese-Mogg and others on Brexit, Stewart Regan on deadRangers. There's a theme here and that theme is c***s. From the BBC website: An audio recording of Mr Trump's closed-door meeting with Evangelical leaders at the White House was leaked to US media. During the meeting, Mr Trump said the mid-term elections were not just a referendum on him but also "on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment [guaranteeing basic freedoms]". "It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence. When you look at Antifa - these are violent people," he said. Antifa - short for anti-fascist - refers to groups of far-left protesters who fight far-right ideology and regularly clash with far-right demonstrators. The US president has previously criticised left-wing groups, infamously saying that there had been violence on "many sides" after a white nationalist killed a left-wing demonstrator at a white nationalist protest in Charlottesville last year. Fake news, eh Donny? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo: First Blood Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Detournement said: If you mean sponsoring a right wing coup was a bad idea then Obama definitely has to take the blame. It's funny how the candidate that doesn't want war with Russia keeps winning these elections..... There was no coup in Ukraine. This wasn't the military coming in and taking power. It was a massive peaceful protest movement that brought down a government that went back on a promise made in their manifesto. Obama did not sponsor this to any extent except for publically vocally backing the Maidan protest movement. The idea that something as huge as that movement could have been manufactured rather than an expression of the will of millions of Ukrainians is absurd. The Obama administration even refused to give Ukraine heavy weaponry after Russia had invaded and annexed Crimea. Neither was the (so-called) "coup" right-wing but rather a movement of a wide spectrum of Ukrainian society but the defining ideology was about building an independent and democratic Ukraine that was more oriented towards the EU than Russia. The parties currently governing in Ukraine are centre-right conservative-liberal pro-EU parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan Condolences to the family of John McCain. Condolences also to the families of thousands of American soldiers, and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis, Afghans, Yemenis, Syrians, Palestinians & others who might be alive today were it not for the votes, & actions, of John McCain.Posted by a guy who quotes that ‘non-believers’ (Islam) are of ‘no morality and no intelligence’.Bit of a generalisation no?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Posted by a guy who quotes that ‘non-believers’ (Islam) are of ‘no morality and no intelligence’. Bit of a generalisation no?? Maybe he formed his views after accidentally stumbling on to rangers media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Watching the first of three funeral events this week or so for McCain on CNN. Trump's going to be fucking raging. Expect some seriously insane stuff to get the limelight back on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Jambo: First Blood said: There was no coup in Ukraine. This wasn't the military coming in and taking power. It was a massive peaceful protest movement that brought down a government that went back on a promise made in their manifesto. Obama did not sponsor this to any extent except for publically vocally backing the Maidan protest movement. The idea that something as huge as that movement could have been manufactured rather than an expression of the will of millions of Ukrainians is absurd. The Obama administration even refused to give Ukraine heavy weaponry after Russia had invaded and annexed Crimea. Neither was the (so-called) "coup" right-wing but rather a movement of a wide spectrum of Ukrainian society but the defining ideology was about building an independent and democratic Ukraine that was more oriented towards the EU than Russia. The parties currently governing in Ukraine are centre-right conservative-liberal pro-EU parties. All nonsense. Right wing paramilitaries were the main drivers of the coup assisted by the US state department. Victoria Nuland was caught on tape giving the game away. Fascist groups are fighting for the Ukranian government in the East. Even the BBC ended up acknowledging that the snipers were basically a false flag https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31359021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Detournement said: Fascist groups are fighting for the Ukranian government in the East. Who do you think is fighting against them, and have you picked a side? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Posted by a guy who quotes that ‘non-believers’ (Islam) are of ‘no morality and no intelligence’. Bit of a generalisation no?? I'd rather you'd give me that direct quote...and tell me what it has to to do with Vietcong napalm carpet bombing, middle East slaughtering, McCain? Edited August 29, 2018 by Jdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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