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28 minutes ago, Detournement said:

https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-2018-midterms-interference/

An interesting article that questions why the Democrats aren't campaigning on the allegations that Trump is being blackmailed from Moscow.

Aaron Mate in the Nation. Of course...

Aaron Mate has been long exposed as a total Russiagate denialist and an apologist for the Kremlin's foreign policy.

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Of course the Dems are campaigning on healthcare, taxes and the economy. Russia comes low on voters priorities, and if there is anything solid apart from incompetence and naivety about collusion it likely won't come out until Mueller finishes his work, or at least after the midterms.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/robert-mueller-trump-midterms-897887

 

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6 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Of course the Dems are campaigning on healthcare, taxes and the economy. Russia comes low on voters priorities, and if there is anything solid apart from incompetence and naivety about collusion it likely won't come out until Mueller finishes his work, or at least after the midterms.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/robert-mueller-trump-midterms-897887

It's not long ago that people like Mate were arguing that the Democrats "Russia obsession" was stopping them from campaigning on the material issues.

Now he's saying the exact opposite that they aren't campaigning on Russiagate.

However it was always nonsense and the Democrats were never at any point making Russiagate a central or even minor point of their campaigns.

Healthcare is the issue that the Democrats have rightly been most focused on.

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1 hour ago, RiG said:

Imagine being that much of a VL that you take to making up stuff like that. Absolute nap he's still living in his parents basement.

Best of all, Wohl's efforts to cover the tracks of his smoke-and-mirrors investigative services agency did not extend past the phone numbers of his immediate family members. NBC News also discovered that a number listed on Surefire Intelligence's web site connected to a voicemail message that advised callers to try a second number, which belongs to...Jacob Wohl's mom. "Wohl stopped respond to NBC News," their report concludes, "after being told Surefires's official phone number redirects to his mother's voicemail."
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Best of all, Wohl's efforts to cover the tracks of his smoke-and-mirrors investigative services agency did not extend past the phone numbers of his immediate family members. NBC News also discovered that a number listed on Surefire Intelligence's web site connected to a voicemail message that advised callers to try a second number, which belongs to...Jacob Wohl's mom. "Wohl stopped respond to NBC News," their report concludes, "after being told Surefires's official phone number redirects to his mother's voicemail."


And he denied having anything to do with Surefire. Even though one of their managing director’s profile pictures is a silhouetted picture of, erm, Wohl.
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18 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:
Best of all, Wohl's efforts to cover the tracks of his smoke-and-mirrors investigative services agency did not extend past the phone numbers of his immediate family members. NBC News also discovered that a number listed on Surefire Intelligence's web site connected to a voicemail message that advised callers to try a second number, which belongs to...Jacob Wohl's mom. "Wohl stopped respond to NBC News," their report concludes, "after being told Surefires's official phone number redirects to his mother's voicemail."

It's all a bit weird, not sure if the scam was to get the MSM to broadcast fake news about the woman who doesn't exist in Florida, or to buy false testimony about Mueller. I suspect the former. Tomorrow's news conference in the hotel will no doubt be cancelled due to threats to the "accuser/victim" from the deep state. This story seems rightfully to be restricted to Twitter and internet news firms, the MSM are ignoring it.

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Best of all, Wohl's efforts to cover the tracks of his smoke-and-mirrors investigative services agency did not extend past the phone numbers of his immediate family members. NBC News also discovered that a number listed on Surefire Intelligence's web site connected to a voicemail message that advised callers to try a second number, which belongs to...Jacob Wohl's mom. "Wohl stopped respond to NBC News," their report concludes, "after being told Surefires's official phone number redirects to his mother's voicemail."
My favourite bit was having a picture of Christopher Waltz as one of the MDs (or some other position).
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58 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

It's all a bit weird, not sure if the scam was to get the MSM to broadcast fake news about the woman who doesn't exist in Florida, or to buy false testimony about Mueller. I suspect the former. Tomorrow's news conference in the hotel will no doubt be cancelled due to threats to the "accuser/victim" from the deep state. This story seems rightfully to be restricted to Twitter and internet news firms, the MSM are ignoring it.

Apparently had it on MSNBC over here last night. Could hear the camera crew laughing. :lol:

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7 hours ago, Jambo: First Blood said:

Aaron Mate in the Nation. Of course...

Aaron Mate has been long exposed as a total Russiagate denialist

How can you be a denialist of something there is zero evidence of? From the NYT

“no public evidence has emerged showing that [Trump’s] campaign conspired with Russia in the election interference or accepted Russian money.”

The idea that Mueller has evidence that Trump is being blackmailed by Russia but is just biding his time and allowing him to carry out his Presidential duties despite the evidence of treason is ridiculous.

 

 

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Interesting Politico article about Mueller investigation

It's all very much conjecture but Trump's lawyer confirmed that they were just finishing building their opposing case for a subpoenaed (the law being grey on if a President can be called to testify under oath) and the very next day, a sealed case seemed to appear on record at a DC court that relates to the Mueller investigation and there's been this back and forth. The TL;DR is that there's a good chance that this is Trump given the irregularities involved and it'll be decided on 14th December.

The funny thing about all of this would be that if you are summoned by a Grand Jury, you can't even have a lawyer in the room. It'd be hilarious to see how many times he'd perjure himself if he was put in that situation.

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19 hours ago, welshbairn said:

It's all a bit weird, not sure if the scam was to get the MSM to broadcast fake news about the woman who doesn't exist in Florida, or to buy false testimony about Mueller. I suspect the former. Tomorrow's news conference in the hotel will no doubt be cancelled due to threats to the "accuser/victim" from the deep state. This story seems rightfully to be restricted to Twitter and internet news firms, the MSM are ignoring it.

And... what do you know, this turns out to be bang on the money.

Your "victim" apparently panicked, and jumped on the first ride out of Dodge... because of fears for her life... as a result of threats made by the deep state.  The news conference is now not going to have a witness at all.

It's almost as if the alt right/conspiracy theory loon balls have made the whole deep state up, and no such thing exists.  It's almost as if they're desperately trying to delegitimise the legal investigation into their 9/11 president.  It's almost as if they're talking complete bollocks after getting all their information from shouty racists on YouTube.

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