The Master Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I think this is worthy of its own thread because of the stooshie it's causing. The Boundary Commission for Scotland has finally published its proposals to reduce the number of Scottish MPs from 59 to 53, as part of a wider measure to reduce the total number of MPs from 650 to 600. https://www.bcs2018.org.uk/node/6467 Two of the three non-SNP MPs lose their constituencies, with them being split to join strong SNP-supporting areas. Orkney and Shetland have been given special dispensation to be smaller, to the Lib Dems will be able to cling on there you'd expect. A bit of musical chairs will need to happen in the SNP. Assuming Westminster is still relevant up here by 2020, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Some of that is totally weird! Bearsden for example carved in 2 - half being with Milngavie (Traditional) - Cross Bearsden Cross & that now comes under Dumbarton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 In Glasgow, Anniesland & Maryhill combine, but even more strange is that North & South of the river combine to make up a Glasgow Central seat absorbing Kelvin / City & Govan! - Fireworks ahead me thinks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Does this mean fluffy will lose his job.... glorious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 So Scotland will go from 9.1% representation in Parliament currently to 8.8%. Is this what was meant by a Federal solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 No this, brexit and evel are what was meant by lead the UK not leave it. We're obviously in charge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meth Damon Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 47 minutes ago, Elixir said: So Scotland will go from 9.1% representation in Parliament currently to 8.8%. Is this what was meant by a Federal solution? A quick Google shows we have 8.3% of the UK population, probably unfair that we have an over representation but at least it's getting a little fairer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstarstranraer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Under those proposed changes Campbeltown and Mallaig are going to share an MP. I don't agree with the proposals anyway but I'm somewhat bemused by the fact that Orkney and Shetland and the Western Isles are given protection in legislation and can't be changed due to being remote island groups (fair enough as a principle) whilst the other parts of the Highlands are merged into ever larger constituencies. In the case of 'Argyll, Bute and Lochaber' how is one person meant to effectively represent an area of 10,302 square km that includes numerous islands and has woeful transport links? The proposed 'Highland North' constituency is only 15 sq km smaller than the maximum size permitted of 13,000 sq km. How is an MP supposed to provide local surgeries across these sorts of areas on anything like a regular basis? These proposals significantly erode the ability of MPs in rural Scotland to provide anything like an accessible, accountable and efficient service for their constituents. Also a bit irritating that the Isle of Wight, which has a much larger population represented by the one MP than the norm at present, is going to be included in this list of 'protected' constituencies; when it is split in two the new MPs will suddenly represent a much smaller population than the norm. Apparently attaching part of the Isle of Wight to a mainland constituency is just unthinkable whereas huge areas of Scotland have to be cobbled together in the name of 'equalisation'. Doubly ridiculous we're cutting the number of MPs for spurious reasons of 'efficiency' and 'savings' whilst at the same time the number of peers is being constantly increased. How anyone thinks that cutting the number of elected representatives from 650 to 600 whilst the membership of the Lords is 812 and counting is a step in the right direction god only knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Redstar you fuckin own this place now man. We are all your guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Looks like I go from being in Dundee West to Angus Glens and Dundee East (which makes more sense tbf, seeing as I'm in Angus council) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 5 hours ago, iknowwheremaddieis said: A quick Google shows we have 8.3% of the UK population, probably unfair that we have an over representation but at least it's getting a little fairer. Over representation with absolutely zero impact whatsoever. Oh, how hard done England must feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Looks like I go from being in Dundee West to Angus Glens and Dundee East (which makes more sense tbf, seeing as I'm in Angus council) Well merging everything in Angus will be a panacea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Two of the three non-SNP MPs lose their constituencies, with them being split to join strong SNP-supporting areas. Orkney and Shetland have been given special dispensation to be smaller, to the Lib Dems will be able to cling on there you'd expect. Don't know the area too well, but would that mean the Tories stand a better chance in Berwickshire since they only lost by around 300 votes in 2015? If they're getting parts of Mundell's seat? If that's the case, he might stand there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Edinburgh West (SNP 39%, Liberal Democrats 33%) is traditionally Lib dem territory and with the exclusion of Muirhouse and inclusion of Orchard Brae, Craigleith and more of Blackhall optimistic Lib Dems will see this as winnable. And basically if you're a Lib Dem you've got to be optimistic to keep going. Edinburgh North & Leith ( SNP 40.9%, Labour 31.3%) has become more down at heel after swapping territory with Edinburgh West, It also loses the new town and Restalrig Edinburgh East (SNP 49.2, Labour 29.9%) loses the southside but gains most of Ian Murray's old Edinbuirgh South and for that matter the less salubrious side. Edinburgh Pentlands has been more or less merged into livingston The people of Sighthill, Longstone , and Wester Hailes are now effectively in Livingston while the Ed C&SW manages to reach the bypass to take in the more prosperous suburbs of Colinton. Edinburgh Central is back (sort of) It disappeared when we dropped from 6 to 5 Edinburgh Central & SW takes territory back from all previous constituencies taking in the Newtown The Holyrood version of Edinburgh Central ended up (Con 30.4%, SNP 28.6%, Labour 22.1%, Green 13.6%) but it's doubtful that anybody except Ruth Davidson could have pulled that off. Edinburgh Central & SW however doesn't go beyond the water of Leith so proper posh bits like Murrayfield, Stockbridge, Fettes replaced with slightly more Lib Dem minded southern suburbanites On the other hand Gorgie-Dalry is replaced with Slateford. Theoretically this could be a 3 way marginal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 On 20/10/2016 at 12:02, Meth Damon said: A quick Google shows we have 8.3% of the UK population, probably unfair that we have an over representation but at least it's getting a little fairer. Most of that difference will be accounted for by the Northern Isles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhafc1874 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Some of it makes no sense.Hamilton still split in 2 with Lanark & Hamilton East seat going with these proposals.That side of Hamilton gets lumped in with Bothwell, Larkhall, parts of Motherwell & parts of Wishaw in a seat crossing SLC & NLC.Uddingston, Stonehouse, Lanark etc despite being in same constituency at Holyrood as some of the places above would be in different constituencies at Westminster.Clusterfuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 It's a pure Tory conspiracy so it is. #IndyRef2......so says someone on Facebook that sat foundy modern studies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 A wee snigger as very slowly the Westminster noose loosens again. 1997 72 seats 2020 53 seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Tories long term aim is to get Westminster down to 500 MPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Tories long term aim is to get Westminster down to 500 MPs. All Tory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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