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The reason for his gotcha backlog was a strike, that's why half an hour's research on your phone while watching Jeremy Kyle on major issues isn't quite the right process for a news channel. Hope the French are just sitting back sucking on a Gitanes and watching the Gammons have a meltdown.    *Comedian as in an absolute helmet.

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7 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

Comedian alert *

The reason for his gotcha backlog was a strike, that's why half an hour's research on your phone while watching Jeremy Kyle on major issues isn't quite the right process for a news channel. Hope the French are just sitting back sucking on a Gitanes and watching the Gammons have a meltdown.    *Comedian as in an absolute helmet.

No wonder the French look at England with such disdain 

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1 hour ago, TapothehullDee said:

Did Brexit kill President Kennedy as well, the surrender monkeys and the loony left blame Brexit for everything. Absolute nut jobs. 

Yes. Brexit killed Kennedy. That makes perfect sense.

ffs 😂

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3 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said:

James O' Brien doing a brilliant hatchet job on the govt on LBC this morning.

Basically doing what Starmer should be doing.

O'Brien does have a way of cutting through the [email protected]  One of his points today was to query if it is true that  BoJo got brexit done, how can six French blokes being late for work paralyse cross Channel traffic and turn the road network around Dover into a car park? We've taken back control, dontcha know. 

Brilliant use of quote clips from Rees-Mogg and Grayling saying that there would be no traffic problems at Dover after Brexit and Patel proudly stating that her mission was to end freedom of movement. Well, at least the latter succeed. Trouble is, the leavers, including the gammonati, seemed to believe that the the freedom of movement being stopped would only be those annoying foreign folk who would be prevented from coming to this sceptered isle. Nobody would dare impose passport controls on "us" entering the EU. 

Eejits.

The 2 candidates for the Tory leadership were part of the gang of clowns who got us into this mess AND have the unmitigated gall to say that each are just the thing we need to make things better. 🤣

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9 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

O'Brien does have a way of cutting through the [email protected]  One of his points today was to query if it is true that  BoJo got brexit done, how can six French blokes being late for work paralyse cross Channel traffic and turn the road network around Dover into a car park? We've taken back control, dontcha know. 

Brilliant use of quote clips from Rees-Mogg and Grayling saying that there would be no traffic problems at Dover after Brexit and Patel proudly stating that her mission was to end freedom of movement. Well, at least the latter succeed. Trouble is, the leavers, including the gammonati, seemed to believe that the the freedom of movement being stopped would only be those annoying foreign folk who would be prevented from coming to this sceptered isle. Nobody would dare impose passport controls on "us" entering the EU. 

Eejits.

The 2 candidates for the Tory leadership were part of the gang of clowns who got us into this mess AND have the unmitigated gall to say that each are just the thing we need to make things better. 🤣

 

Well done, S&V, you've summed up this morning's show perfectly.

As for the two leadership candidates, wouldn't it be good if someone like O'Brien could be chairing tonight's TV debate?

He might, just might, ask some meaningful questions, instead of inviting them to roll over to have their tummies tickled, as will undoubtedly happen with Sophie Raworth in charge.

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1 hour ago, Anonapersona said:

Yes. Brexit killed Kennedy. That makes perfect sense.

ffs 😂

Brexit is also the reason Dundee haven’t won the Scottish Cup for 112 years.

 

 

 

 

Oh no, wait; it wasn’t Brexit, it’s because they’re shite.

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You’re far too pessimistic about Brexit.

Give it a few more years and I think the UK will be doing fairly well.

Look at the EU. GDP is falling, the euro has fallen to parity with the dollar and politically, things don’t look good, especially in Italy. Add in the impending winter energy shortages and I’m more than happy to be out of Europe.

The border issues at France are just them being awkward as we were never in Schengen. I’ve been to a few European countries this year and no problem on entry.

People will just give up on France and switch to Spain, Portugal and other countries. They will lose the trade.

GD- you’ll be proved right.

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3 hours ago, TapothehullDee said:

Did Brexit kill President Kennedy as well, the surrender monkeys and the loony left blame Brexit for everything. Absolute nut jobs. 

Kennedy was killed by the devil in his Jagger incarnation, plus one other unidentified person. There's a widely available taped confession. 

Parts of the "loony left" (JC) quite liked Brexit. 

I do think that your suggestion (that the arrangments at a major border with the EU isn't brexit related) is heroic though. Stick to your principles, no matter how dumb, without regard to evidence. 

But please punctuate better. 

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It's true that problems with French Border Control leading to delays at Dover happen every year in the school holidays. We always had a 'hard' border with France, being non-Schengen. 

Passports now need to be stamped, which will means it'll take slightly longer but on the whole should not cause too much additional disruption. Even if it did, stamping passports will no longer be necessary when ETIAS comes into force (supposedly next year). Will this mean no more backlogs? Will it f**k. As I said, this happens every year. 

What we do now have (permanently) is a customs border - goods exiting the UK require border checks before entering France/the EU. These are time consuming and sap resources, almost certainly leading to delays for passengers owing to capacity reasons. At peak times, queues will happen as they have always done, but they might well get pretty bad. 

As we have mutually arranged for French Border Control to take place in the UK, the UK government will most likely need to meet the costs of more resources. It doesn't want to, but it's the only way to try and mitigate these problems. 

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1 minute ago, Michael W said:

It's true that problems with French Border Control leading to delays at Dover happen every year in the school holidays. We always had a 'hard' border with France, being non-Schengen. 

Passports now need to be stamped, which will means it'll take slightly longer but on the whole should not cause too much additional disruption. Even if it did, stamping passports will no longer be necessary when ETIAS comes into force (supposedly next year). Will this mean no more backlogs? Will it f**k. As I said, this happens every year. 

What we do now have (permanently) is a customs border - goods exiting the UK require border checks before entering France/the EU. These are time consuming and sap resources, almost certainly leading to delays for passengers owing to capacity reasons. At peak times, queues will happen as they have always done, but they might well get pretty bad. 

As we have mutually arranged for French Border Control to take place in the UK, the UK government will most likely need to meet the costs of more resources. It doesn't want to, but it's the only way to try and mitigate these problems. 

According to the Independent, the 'chill out, things will get better' viewpoint may be a bit misplaced. 

From May 2023, it seems that the non-EU based travellers will no longer have to have their passports stamped to enter the EU! Hurrah! Yaaaas! 

However, instead, the next steps will require every traveller being fingerprinted and have to provide a facial biometric.  For good measure, those wishing to enter the Schengen area will have to first apply online for permission to enter.  Report at : -

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/brexit-border-etias-dover-eurostar-b2130495.html

It's all going very well, isn't it? 

 

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3 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

According to the Independent, the 'chill out, things will get better' viewpoint may be a bit misplaced. 

From May 2023, it seems that the non-EU based travellers will no longer have to have their passports stamped to enter the EU! Hurrah! Yaaaas! 

However, instead, the next steps will require every traveller being fingerprinted and have to provide a facial biometric.  For good measure, those wishing to enter the Schengen area will have to first apply online for permission to enter.  Report at : -

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/brexit-border-etias-dover-eurostar-b2130495.html

It's all going very well, isn't it? 

 

 

It'll get better before it gets worse again at the next peak time. 

The Independent is I think wrong about the need for biometric data to be collected. I recall that UK passport holders will be able to use the eGates again once it's in place, which would cause an issue trying to obtain the fingerprints etc. I checked the guidance and it seems to agree. 

https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-form-application

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The only official document that travellers need to complete the online application is a biometric passport. They will also need an email address and a debit or credit card. Biometric passports are required for their security advantages such as preventing unauthorised reading or “skimming” of the passport information.

 

According to the experience of other countries with similar travel authorisation systems (US, Canada, Australia), an estimated 95% of applications, or more, will be approved within minutes. Fingerprints and other biometric data will not be collected.

Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding, but I think the visa waiver through ETIAS is the permission to travel there and it's valid for three years. Can't see anything saying it needs to be done every time before travelling. Still not ideal, right enough. I believe the UK is working on a similar system also for third country nationals. 

And unfortunately, none of this is going to resolve any problems at Dover, which will continue to be a periodic shambles. 

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