doulikefish Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: "I voted as a businessman to leave" Mate you really didn't 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 There’s no point in laughing at people that voted leave and now realise that it was a shite idea. People have been fed shite news stories for decades about Brussels bureaucrats measuring the length of bananas or the weight of sugar cubes. Couple that with some sense of entitlement over our brave boys in ww2 and this was inevitable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, Lofarl said: There’s no point in laughing at people that voted leave and now realise that it was a shite idea. People have been fed shite news stories for decades about Brussels bureaucrats measuring the length of bananas or the weight of sugar cubes. Couple that with some sense of entitlement over our brave boys in ww2 and this was inevitable. Except for the basic question "why should I care about the length of bananas or the weight of sugar cubes?" I am not sure if I have ever bought sugar cubes. If they are same size in all countries or not - I couldn't care less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Except for the basic question "why should I care about the length of bananas or the weight of sugar cubes?" I am not sure if I have ever bought sugar cubes. If they are same size in all countries or not - I couldn't care less. They will all be the same size in the EU countries. Meanwhile - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57941657 Edited July 23, 2021 by Jacksgranda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: They will all be the same size in the EU countries. Meanwhile - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57941657 Now we are out of the EU they don't even have to be cubes anymore! Yippee. Still have no need to buy any. You also mentioned essential medicines to NI. Is that important? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Fullerene said: You also mentioned essential medicines to NI. Is that important? There was a list published a while back and none of them were anything I use so no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Lofarl said: There’s no point in laughing at people that voted leave and now realise that it was a shite idea. People have been fed shite news stories for decades about Brussels bureaucrats measuring the length of bananas or the weight of sugar cubes. Couple that with some sense of entitlement over our brave boys in ww2 and this was inevitable. I'm not sure about sugar but the idea of British exceptionalism is so ingrained that it passes without comment... Just yesterday on the wireless: "We're good at sticking to rules whereas the Europeans aren't" In the context of a government that wants to break it's word, the lack of self perspective is staggering 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Dolf said: Financial O Toole explains the consequences and situation Britain will find itself in if it does away with the protocol https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/23/northern-ireland-protocol-boris-johnson-oven-ready-deal-sausage Since it is unanswerable, we get the embarrassing stunt: the demand that the EU should tear up a crucial part of the Brexit withdrawal agreement – or else. Or else what? Britain will unilaterally suspend the operation of the protocol, force-feed the people of Northern Ireland with good English sausage, trigger retaliatory trade sanctions from the EU, destroy Britain’s reputation as a trustworthy partner for any sane country and deeply antagonise the Biden administration in Washington with whom it is hoping to do a landmark trade deal. Good luck with all that. That's why this is in thecommentisfree section. Not convinced that I should be listening to a drama critic when it comes.to international relations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, strichener said: That's why this is in thecommentisfree section. Not convinced that I should be listening to a drama critic when it comes.to international relations. Good idea, rather than reflect upon the continued wise words of the respected journalist Fintan O'Toole, we're almost certainly best placed to follow the view of a contributor who involves himself in desperate pits of pedantry in fruitless debate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, strichener said: That's why this is in thecommentisfree section. Not convinced that I should be listening to a drama critic when it comes.to international relations. Better than listening to a drama queen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Dolf said: The author two best selling books on Brexit that has been traveling around British universities giving lectures on the subject and who was one of the first commentators that correctly called Brexit a product of English nationalism and you put his name into a search engine and came up with drama critic? Google spectacularly failed to recognise Financial O'Toole. Luckily I am aware of who "best selling" author Fintan the self proclaimed Anglophile is. His own drama is in his writings with such heavy political insight as "the only stiff upper lips on display in England now belong to the victims of botched Botox jobs" or "Britain has spent 45 years hanging from the ceiling in the Red Room of Pain, with clamps on its nipples and a gag in its mouth." I'll file that in the bin along with your opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dolf said: Pointing out an auto correct mistake is the perfect way of countering a previous posters claim that you are a pedant You were the one that claimed I just typed the name into Google which is quite hard to do when then name isn't even in the post. Anyway his interpretation of what happens by triggering Article 16 are as skewed as yours. The whole point of Article 16 is to allow unilateral measures to be put in place until agreeable solutions can be found. It does not demand that anything is "torn up". In the same way as the EU indicating that they would use the same mechanism to implement a hard border in Ireland was not tearing up the agreement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, Dolf said: Britain is trying to get the protocol renegotiated,I'd call that an attempt to tear it up I think we will just have to disagree on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Jesus, this is a quandary. Should I believe the words of an author who knows a shit-ton about Brexit, or a contrarian, boring pound-shop Ad Lib off a football message board.A toughie. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, strichener said: I think we will just have to disagree on that. So it's your considered opinion that if the UK unilaterally, without a legitimate cause, change the current agreement with the EU then international law will not have been breached? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 22/07/2021 at 22:03, welshbairn said: I read something about Theresa May being totally dumbstruck when she found out Ireland could be a bit of a problem, and tried to back track on her red lines. A recent Secretary of State for Northern Ireland didn't realise that people in NI generally vote along sectarian lines. Some of these Tories are genuinely thick. Possibly, you could just as easily say that they're completely uninterested and utterly bored by anything to do with the regions. They're as perplexed by anything to do with Norn Iron as they were by Scotland in 2014, and you can guarantee that the phrase, "why don't we just tell them to f**k off and do what they want?" has been uttered by a fair few Conservative cabinet ministers by this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/24/business/brexit-deal-northern-ireland-gbr-intl-cmd/index.html Why would anyone trust Brexit Britain again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 13 hours ago, BFTD said: Possibly, you could just as easily say that they're completely uninterested and utterly bored by anything to do with the regions. They're as perplexed by anything to do with Norn Iron as they were by Scotland in 2014, and you can guarantee that the phrase, "why don't we just tell them to f**k off and do what they want?" has been uttered by a fair few Conservative cabinet ministers by this point. Agreed to an extent, but it's far easier to pretend that a country isn't connected to you when it physically isn't connected to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Brexit exodus – ‘EU workers have left and aren’t returning...we’ve never seen anything like this in 20 years’ https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/brexit-exodus--eu-workers-21105531 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Brexit exodus – ‘EU workers have left and aren’t returning...we’ve never seen anything like this in 20 years’ https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/brexit-exodus--eu-workers-21105531 So what? They got rid of all those Johnny Foreigners. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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