welshbairn Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Agreed. But, just for the sake of argument, what's to stop Westminster from passing legislation that allows 'preferred' countries to dump any sort of crap onto our plates, whilst putting barriers up against less favoured nations? I can think of one obvious way that the USA does this already, which the UK could adopt at a drop of a hat. US Gallons/Pints/Fluid Ounces anyone? Not an expert, but I think the WTO would take a dim view. Edited December 20, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Not an expert, but I think the WTO would take dim view. Why? Internal food labelling requirements are a matter for individual governments. Currently, in general, EU import requirements require metric. Similarly, current US import requirements require imperial. I could take photographs of multiple imported Chinese ingredients in my essential Asian ingredients cupboard which have overlabeling to comply with current EU import requirements. Any government can put similar complex provisions in place, and can make them as simple or complex as they wish Edited December 20, 2020 by lichtgilphead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Why? Internal food labelling requirements are a matter for individual governments. Currently, in general, EU import requirements require metric. Similarly, current US import requirements require imperial. I could take photographs of multiple imported Chinese ingredients in my essential Asian ingredients cupboard which have overlabeling to comply with current EU import requirements. Any government can put similar complex provisions in place, and can make them as simple or complex as they wish I think they'd treat as discriminating trade barrier if it's applied selectively. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I think they'd treat as discriminating trade barrier if it's applied selectively. I assume that you'll be imploring the WTO to take the USA to court for their current policy then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: I assume that you'll be imploring the WTO to take the USA to court for their current policy then? Absolutely. Not sure where this is going though, if it's just a matter of different labels for exports to the UK I can't imagine many countries would have much trouble with that in the 2020s. Edited December 20, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Absolutely. Not sure where this is going though, if it's just a matter of different labels for exports to the UK I can't imagine many countries would have much trouble with that in the 2020s. You would be surprised how many countries have problems with complying with current EU requirements! Imagine a situation where the UK government insisted on total compliance and strict enforcement. They could easily make importing product very difficult... Different labelling requirements add to retail costs. The new UKMA safety mark will result in additional costs in GB (but maybe not NI), especially when standards inevitably starts to diverge from the current CE marking requirements 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carpetmonster Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 16 hours ago, welshbairn said: Absolutely. Not sure where this is going though, if it's just a matter of different labels for exports to the UK I can't imagine many countries would have much trouble with that in the 2020s. Yankee Doodle biscuits 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICTJohnboy Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Looks like Benny Hill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) What planet are London media outlet people on when they frame stories as the EU will need to budge or it will be No deal? The UK is the smaller economy involved with more to lose, and it's quite possible that at least some EU leaders actually want a No Deal Brexit to severely mess up the UK pour discourager les autres. Edited December 20, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 What planet are London media outlet people on when they frame stories as the EU will need to budge or it will be No deal? The UK is the smaller economy involved with more to lose, and it's quite possible that at least some EU leaders actually want a No Deal Brexit to severely mess up the UK pour discourager les autres.I said the same the other day - it's complete and utter nonsense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: What planet are London media outlet people on when they frame stories as the EU will need to budge or it will be No deal? The UK is the smaller economy involved with more to lose, and it's quite possible that at least some EU leaders actually want a No Deal Brexit to severely mess up the UK pour discourager les autres. Where is that famous headline - "Disaster at sea - Iceberg refused to move". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Assume now that yet again with today's #final, final, final' deadline...or mere hours to go, as Barnier put it a couple of days ago, that the 'final, final, final, final' date for a deal has been moved to......next Sunday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Everything is the EU’s fault. Tories are the best. Austerity rules. Boris is a hero. The Telegraph. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Everything is the EU’s fault. Tories are the best. Austerity rules. Boris is a hero. The Telegraph. I can imagine that being beastly to les rosbifs will be a massive votewinner in the banliues in a year and a half, sounds legit. Do these twats not even think before spreading the propaganda now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55389505 Contrary to the BBC's ridiculous grasp of agency, 'Dover' has halted f**k all: France has halted incoming traffic and so this drizzle bound failed state is cut off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, virginton said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55389505 Contrary to the BBC's ridiculous grasp of agency, 'Dover' has halted f**k all: France has halted incoming traffic and so this drizzle bound failed state is cut off. Delicious realisation for that France can control their borders to keep out undesirables. Edited December 21, 2020 by Theroadlesstravelled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Everything is the EU’s fault. Tories are the best. Austerity rules. Boris is a hero. The Telegraph. Glad our leaders don't take ideological decisions that aren't in the country's interests to pander to the fanatics in their support. f**k knows what living in that kind of hellscape would be like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 This absolute shite again. You really couldn’t fit a bawhair between The Brexit Party and the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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