Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

11 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Truckers driving into the EU better not have a ham and cheese sandwich in their cabs!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/18/lorry-drivers-heading-to-eu-face-ham-sandwich-ban
 

“That’s not a gammon joint. That’s my face.”

[bendan]

Brilliant stuff from one of the farmers in this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-55115896

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Nathan Allen, who farms both sheep and beef cattle at Winster, near Windermere, wants a deal "so we can still export our food and we have control of the tariffs and our market".

But he also voted for Brexit because he wanted control over where he sold his meat.

"I feel like the governments are giving the supermarkets too much control," he said.

"They're allowing New Zealand lamb and Polish beef to come in to this country and they're pushing British products out and we're having to sell abroad.

"I want our food to stop in our country and provide for our own nation."

 

[bendan]

BBC themselves still struggling to understand:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55222125

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• Or, if the UK and the EU can't agree a deal, trade between the countries must follow to the rules set out by the World Trade Organisation (WTO) which include significant tariffs on foods heading in directions.

 

[Billy Jean King]

Truckers driving into the EU better not have a ham and cheese sandwich in their cabs!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/18/lorry-drivers-heading-to-eu-face-ham-sandwich-ban
 

It's no ham and cheese officer it's Jambon et Fromage.

[Cyclizine]

21 hours ago, Crùbag said:

Depends which fish.

Heard that the west coast fishermen who take mostly langoustines are furious. Northern Irish fishermen can come to our west coast and then sell their catch to the EU. We can't. Tariffs and paperwork still unknown.

Yes. My in-laws are involved in the inshore creel fishing industry and universally they voted to remain. The biggest chunk of their business is exporting live crab, lobster, prawns etc to the continent as quickly as possible so they arrive as fresh as possible. They need the minimum of red tape. The millionaire Brexit-voting pelagic trawler families who claim to speak for the UK fishing industry don't speak for the vast number of small inshore creelmen. It's a fucking disaster for them.

[San Starko Rover]

Brilliant stuff from one of the farmers in this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-55115896

Nathan Allen, who farms both sheep and beef cattle at Winster, near Windermere, wants a deal "so we can still export our food and we have control of the tariffs and our market".

But he also voted for Brexit because he wanted control over where he sold his meat.

"I feel like the governments are giving the supermarkets too much control," he said.

"They're allowing New Zealand lamb and Polish beef to come in to this country and they're pushing British products out and we're having to sell abroad.

"I want our food to stop in our country and provide for our own nation."

 


Most Brexit voters just about summed up by this one farmer, wants to export his produce to the world with minimal barriers but wants us to refuse to accept foreign produce so he can sell his produce here. What planet do these people live on? They seriously believe we are some superpower who can dictate terms to the EU, China and the USA because we buy a few cars and import more than we export and of course we shouldn’t let any migrants in as they’re taking our jobs but we should bring them in to do the crap jobs at low wages when needed then kick them out again.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

[Fullerene]

I have a brilliant scheme to defeat those interfering foreigners.  I will take two sandwiches.  One will be ham.  The other will be cheese.  That will fox them.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

How can you argue with that logic?

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, Fullerene said:

I have a brilliant scheme to defeat those interfering foreigners.  I will take two sandwiches.  One will be ham.  The other will be cheese.  That will fox them.

Make them with prosciutto and Roquefort to confuse them even more.

[Baxter Parp]

Make them with prosciutto and Roquefort to confuse them even more.

As if anybody will be able to afford such extravagance next year.

[welshbairn]

6 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

What's the Indian flag doing on these brexiteer accounts now? Is it because they are attacking labour laws?

They're stomping on Muslim immigration, all other religions welcome.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Can we not leave Kent?

[DA Baracus]

9 hours ago, San Starko Rover said:

 


Most Brexit voters just about summed up by this one farmer, wants to export his produce to the world with minimal barriers but wants us to refuse to accept foreign produce so he can sell his produce here. What planet do these people live on? They seriously believe we are some superpower who can dictate terms to the EU, China and the USA because we buy a few cars and import more than we export and of course we shouldn’t let any migrants in as they’re taking our jobs but we should bring them in to do the crap jobs at low wages when needed then kick them out again.

Also the government can't force supermarkets to stock only English produce. If they tried the supermarkets would have a good chuckle before fucking off. No doubt there would be some mad 'British produce only!!!!!' supermarkets who would take their place, but with zero competition the quality would be comically bad since it wouldn't have to be in any way good.

The silly farmer guy wants an impossibility that a 10 year old knows isn't/wouldn't/can't be feasible.

[lichtgilphead]

33 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Also the government can't force supermarkets to stock only English produce. If they tried the supermarkets would have a good chuckle before fucking off. No doubt there would be some mad 'British produce only!!!!!' supermarkets who would take their place, but with zero competition the quality would be comically bad since it wouldn't have to be in any way good.

The silly farmer guy wants an impossibility that a 10 year old knows isn't/wouldn't/can't be feasible.

Whilst the Government cannot force supermarkets to stock only English produce, they can re-enact the Trade Descriptions Act 1972.

The TDA'72 was the b*****d offspring of the more well-known TDA'68, and effectively forced foreign imports to declare exactly where they were manufactured.

The TDA '72 had to be repealed after the UK were taken to court by the EEC, as it was found to be a barrier to trade.

Now we've left the EU, there's nothing to stop the UK government from  making foreign competitors comply with complex labelling requirements to make it difficult for them to trade in the UK. The current Westminster Government are insane enough to try crude protectionist measures of this type.

[Guest Jedi]

Yep, for folk who get annoyed at seeing union jacks, and made in Britain etc, on products, we ain't seen nothing yet.....next year will indeed give the Tories the green light ramp up their crude protectionism, and plaster the union jack over anything they lay their hands on.

Edited December 19, 2020 by Jedi

[Baxter Parp]

I expect Kincy to have a conniption fit.

[DA Baracus]

47 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

Whilst the Government cannot force supermarkets to stock only English produce, they can re-enact the Trade Descriptions Act 1972.

The TDA'72 was the b*****d offspring of the more well-known TDA'68, and effectively forced foreign imports to declare exactly where they were manufactured.

The TDA '72 had to be repealed after the UK were taken to court by the EEC, as it was found to be a barrier to trade.

Now we've left the EU, there's nothing to stop the UK government from  making foreign competitors comply with complex labelling requirements to make it difficult for them to trade in the UK. The current Westminster Government are insane enough to try crude protectionist measures of this type.

If that happened it would be the proverbial 'race to the bottom'.

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, lichtgilphead said:

Whilst the Government cannot force supermarkets to stock only English produce, they can re-enact the Trade Descriptions Act 1972.

The TDA'72 was the b*****d offspring of the more well-known TDA'68, and effectively forced foreign imports to declare exactly where they were manufactured.

The TDA '72 had to be repealed after the UK were taken to court by the EEC, as it was found to be a barrier to trade.

Now we've left the EU, there's nothing to stop the UK government from  making foreign competitors comply with complex labelling requirements to make it difficult for them to trade in the UK. The current Westminster Government are insane enough to try crude protectionist measures of this type.

The Americans won't have that, they're dead against British consumers getting any idea of the source of their shitty food exports.

[lichtgilphead]

Just now, welshbairn said:

The Americans won't have that, they're dead against British consumers getting any idea of the source of their shitty food exports.

Agreed. 

But, just for the sake of argument, what's to stop Westminster from passing legislation that allows 'preferred' countries to dump any sort of crap onto our plates, whilst putting barriers up against less favoured nations?

I can think of one obvious way that the USA does this already, which the UK could adopt at a drop of a hat. US Gallons/Pints/Fluid Ounces anyone?