The_Kincardine Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kejan said: It's a brilliant quote and so true today. Edward Carson "What a fool I was! I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into Power". He did have one hell of a cat, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 hours ago, thisal said: The Tories have deliberately and successfully gone for a certain demographic in the Scotland by returning Unionist to their title. Why are they doing this? Where does 'Unionist' in this epithet come from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 It would be hugely funny if Boris loses by 1 vote to the cry of Theresa May shouting get it roon ye Boris from the back benches. It won't happen of course but it would be an apt staging post in a clusterfuck of political skullduggery in the UK.What about a dead heat and the speaker casting the deciding vote? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: Why are they doing this? Where does 'Unionist' in this epithet come from? Think the official name is The Conservative and Unionist (coz Rainjurz) party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 With the DUP going against the Tories on Brexit the coz Rangers voters will have a hard time working out who’s more staunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Imagine living in a country where religion is the main determining factor in the political and electoral process. It’s like something out of the dark ages.We live in a country where a large proportion of the population’s sole reason to vote against there own independence, is that they have an allegiance to a now liquidated football team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Any Labour MP who votes for this should be fucking ashamed of themselves.Campbell is a fucking dinosaur - thinks he's protecting Nissan jobs - what a fucking moron. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: We live in a country where a large proportion of the population’s sole reason to vote against there own independence, is that they have an allegiance to a now liquidated football team. There’s no evidence to support this. The few studies that have taken place show that Sevco supporters are split pretty much the same as other people on the issue of Scottish Independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Any Labour MP who votes for this should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Campbell is a fucking dinosaur - thinks he's protecting Nissan jobs - what a fucking moron. Yes because now that the notion of a government of national unity is dead on the water, MP should be putting party politics first. When you have opposition leaders denouncing the deal made within 5 minutes of the announcement then it is quite obvious that they knew f**k all about the actual details then you know that it is opposition for oppositions sake. Our parliament has been an absolute shambles for three years completely unable to build consensus on the biggest change to the UK for a generation (a proper generation obvs, not an SNP generation!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 So the government has not done an economic forecast on the deal [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Any Labour MP who votes for this should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Campbell is a fucking dinosaur - thinks he's protecting Nissan jobs - what a fucking moron. Yip. The profound change in the Conservative Party in that the couple of years has been masked by Brexit’s prominence. Labour MPs who vote against the whip could be paving the way for a Tory government which will make Thatcher’s look tame. Attacks on workers’ rights, environmental standards, and protection of institutions like the NHS will all follow. As is always the case it will be the most vulnerable who will suffer in this race to the bottom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: There’s no evidence to support this. The few studies that have taken place show that Sevco supporters are split pretty much the same as other people on the issue of Scottish Independence. Source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, strichener said: Yes because now that the notion of a government of national unity is dead on the water, MP should be putting party politics first. When you have opposition leaders denouncing the deal made within 5 minutes of the announcement then it is quite obvious that they knew f**k all about the actual details then you know that it is opposition for oppositions sake. Our parliament has been an absolute shambles for three years completely unable to build consensus on the biggest change to the UK for a generation (a proper generation obvs, not an SNP generation!). Surely using the ‘logic’ in your second sentence you should be critical of MPs who would support the deal without knowing the details. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 14 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: I think that this deal going through will be fantastic for Scottish independence Totally agree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, The OP said: Source? What’s the source for the statement that I’m challenging? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosser-fae-the-shire Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 What’s the source for the statement that I’m challenging?You mentioned a few studies so just post the links to them. Shouldn’t be too difficult (unless they don’t exist). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dosser-fae-the-shire said: You mentioned a few studies so just post the links to them. Shouldn’t be too difficult (unless they don’t exist). I’m happy to when @MONKMAN or someone else posts something to back up the assertion that I took issue with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: What’s the source for the statement that I’m challenging? You cited unnamed “studies”, the onus to provide a source is on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, The OP said: You cited unnamed “studies”, the onus to provide a source is on you. Here is the post I responded to. 51 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: We live in a country where a large proportion of the population’s sole reason to vote against there own independence, is that they have an allegiance to a now liquidated football team. Why aren’t you asking monkman to provide evidence to support his statement? Or maybe you can provide such evidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Very small sub sample carried out by some pollsters on behalf of everyones favourite Bath resident in January. 44% supposedly up from 37% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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