Granny Danger Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: Not for me. Keir Starmer or Emily Thornberry are the best and most realistic contenders IMO. Starmer would never win a leadership race for Labour. 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: Why's Abbott supposed to be useless in particular? She seems no better or worse than the rest of them from what I've heard She can’t get her facts straight and she can’t argue a point well. That applies to others but none that hold such a senior shadow post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, virginton said: It's impressive that you think that the results of an election held in June 2017 and the results of polls showing the Mumbleclown's all-time low approval figures in August 2019 occurred 'simultaneously': impressively stupid, that is. I'm certain that YouTory were banging out the same polls in 2017 as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Clive Lewis joined the Army in 2007. He needs watching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: I'm certain that YouTory were banging out the same polls in 2017 as well. Certain yet wrong. Your default position on this forum really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, virginton said: Certain yet wrong. Your default position on this forum really. Yougov managed to cobble together a poll that had the Tories on 50% in spring 2017. They are a Tory owned joke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, Detournement said: Yougov managed to cobble together a poll that had the Tories on 50% in spring 2017. They are a Tory owned joke. What's that wild swing and a miss got to do with your original and totally incorrect claim champ? May 28/29 2017 YouGov poll - Jeremy Corbyn's net approval rating: -14 June 11/12 2017 YouGov poll - Jeremy Corbyn's net approval rating: 0 August 28/29 2017 YouGov poll - Jeremy Corbyn's approval rating: -59 IpsosMORI July 2019: -50; Opinium August 2019: -42; Deltapoll July 2019: -44 So given the fact that you were completely and utterly wrong about YouGov 'presenting similar figures before the election', your continued rolling out of that trope as well as 'Tory pollster' whining can both be placed in the bin where they belong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Detournement said: Yougov managed to cobble together a poll that had the Tories on 50% in spring 2017. They are a Tory owned joke All the polling companies showed Labour around 25% and the Tories about 48-50ish%, in April. After the election was called, Labour picked up about 5% from most of the companies mostly at the expense of UKIP. Then after the 22nd of May Labour starting to regularly break the 35% and eat into the Tory numbers. That was the date of the Manchester Terror Attack. YouGovs last 3 polls were Con | Lab| UKIP| LD 42% 35% 5% 10% 42% 38% 4% 9% 42% 39% 4% 7% Against a tory vote of 42%, Labour getting 41% and UKIP 1.9%. Its not great but not that bad. Whether it was the Manchester Terror Attack that shifted polls, Mays appalling campaign or the Lord of Lights chosen one, Jezza's personality is something that polling cannot really tell. But its not like the companies were 10% out at the end. No doubt you have some fun theories about events in Manchester, Mossad?MI5? CIA? Bildeberg lizard people? Edited September 2, 2019 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 It was carried out by a guy who was a member of a UK government backed Jihadi group and who had been extracted from Libya on a Royal Navy vessel at one point. Other than that not a clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 H_B [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 BBC Politics are reporting that Boris’s dog has arrived at Downing Street.Some positive news at last. Maybe everything will work out after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cerberus said: BBC Politics are reporting that Boris’s dog has arrived at Downing Street. Some positive news at last. Maybe everything will work out after all. He’s mangey and he’s not house trained. Not sure about the dog. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 BBC Politics are reporting that Boris’s dog has arrived at Downing Street.Some positive news at last. Maybe everything will work out after all.I thought she wasn't moving in due to the Merlot incident 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Cerberus said: BBC Politics are reporting that Boris’s dog has arrived at Downing Street. Some positive news at last. Maybe everything will work out after all. 'Spect he's in there now, marking his territory. Like Boris....., shite all over the place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Boris reacting to the crowd, clearly rattled. His Ceausescu moment. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 What a farce of a speech. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lofarl said: Boris reacting to the crowd, clearly rattled. His Ceausescu moment. Hopefully it ends the same way for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Hopefully it ends the same way for him.I'm not greedy but I'd happily see every single Tory shot and chucked in a fucking ditch tbqh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Detournement said: It was carried out by a guy who was a member of a UK government backed Jihadi group and who had been extracted from Libya on a Royal Navy vessel at one point. Other than that not a clue. #DeepState4Corby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Who would be happy with an election? Happy - SNP, ERG and some LD's. Not Happy - Change mob,The Scots Tories, DUP Majority of Labour and Tories- think most will look at the numbers in their area before commiting either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Quote What could happen in Parliament this week? Tuesday: MPs return to the Commons after their summer recess. Opposition MPs are expected to put forward legislation to stop a no-deal Brexit under "SO24" or Standing Order 24. This would be the bill's first reading. Wednesday: In theory, the bill would then be debated and could potentially pass through all further Commons stages. However, the bill must pass through a series of votes and receive backing from more than half of MPs to pass to the next stage. Boris Johnson's first PMQs as prime minister also takes place. Thursday: If MPs passed the bill, it could then reach the House of Lords by Thursday, but consideration of the bill could spill into Monday. It will be debated and voted on. The House is not due to sit on Friday. Monday, 9 September: If the bill passes these hurdles it could gain Royal Assent, formally making it law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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