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18 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 

One problem with “intention all along” theories is that they presuppose that there was a coherent plan at all

 

I think the EU Tax avoidance directives coming into force this year suggest there was.  That's what its really all about.

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10 hours ago, Kuro said:

I think the EU Tax avoidance directives coming into force this year suggest there was.  That's what its really all about.

The ones that came in force on 1st January 2019? Rather prescient of the government to get a referendum bill passed in December 2015.

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Jo Swinson admits that if Leave wins a second referendum she would still oppose leaving the EU in Parliament. Demanding a referendum and simultaneously pledging to ignore the result if you lose 😄

Campbell and Mandelson better tell her she's not meant to say that in public.

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6 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Jo Swinson admits that if Leave wins a second referendum she would still oppose leaving the EU in Parliament. Demanding a referendum and simultaneously pledging to ignore the result if you lose 😄

Campbell and Mandelson better tell her she's not meant to say that in public.


Brexit means Brexit m8.

 

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On 23/07/2019 at 11:32, trainspotter said:

Either a very flattering picture or Ms Coombs is far too young to have been alive during most, if not all of, the halcyon days she pines for

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49053233

Still, as long as she knew what she was voting for.

Hard to pick a favourite from the following:

Ms Coombs, who says she pines for the "halcyon days" of the 1940s and 50s, insists her vote for Brexit had "absolutely nothing to do with immigration", although she immediately adds: "We do need to have a limit on that."

and

"I think the politically correct brigade has made us almost petrified to say 'well, I'm English' because then you might be offending somebody," she says, adding, "I think people could do with stiffening up a tad and not be quite so ready to be offended.

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Hard to pick a favourite from the following:
Ms Coombs, who says she pines for the "halcyon days" of the 1940s and 50s, insists her vote for Brexit had "absolutely nothing to do with immigration", although she immediately adds: "We do need to have a limit on that."
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"I think the politically correct brigade has made us almost petrified to say 'well, I'm English' because then you might be offending somebody," she says, adding, "I think people could do with stiffening up a tad and not be quite so ready to be offended.


She’s got a point. I’m always offended when someone tells me they’re English.

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On 23/07/2019 at 22:48, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 

One problem with “intention all along” theories is that they presuppose that there was a coherent plan at all

 

Next, hedge fund managers have a particular hatred of the EU because of its drive to put US and UK funds under greater regulation – hedge funds are relatively small in the eurozone countries.  The EU’s new Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive has severely limited hedge fund operations while letting the banks off relatively scot free.  As a result, continental European banks have been able to nab clients (and their money) away from US and UK hedge funds. For this development, the hedge funds blame (rightly) the influence of the big German and French banks on member state governments, the European Central Bank and (above all) the European Commission.
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A major proponent of this line is Sir Paul Marshall, the pro-Brexit co-founder of Marshall Wace, one of Europe’s leading hedge funds.  Marshall argues that in France the ruling “énarques” (graduates of the elite Ecole Nationale d’Administration) are stuck in a revolving door between jobs in the big banks and jobs in government or the EU. According to Marshall, the result is that énarques like President Macron protect the interests of the big European banks.  Marshall, by the way, was a prominent Lib Dem, but he donated £100,000 to the Leave campaign.  Recently he made a bob or two out of shorting Carillion shares, helping put the company out of business.
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The antipathy of UK hedge funds to EU regulation means it is no surprise that prominent fund managers such as Crispin Odey and Michael Hintze support a hard Brexit and fund Boris.  Brexit is not a cry for help from the English underclass.  It is a carefully stage-managed campaign by global finance capital in the form of the hedge funds.  It is being orchestrated out of hedge fund self-interest and the greed of billionaires.  Boris Johnson is their front man.

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They now have their man in place, the cabinet they want. This is all going exactly as planned all along, it will definitely be no deal and was never going to be anything else.

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15 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

The ones that came in force on 1st January 2019? Rather prescient of the government to get a referendum bill passed in December 2015.

Do you think they weren't aware that was on the horizon?

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12 minutes ago, Kuro said:
Next, hedge fund managers have a particular hatred of the EU because of its drive to put US and UK funds under greater regulation – hedge funds are relatively small in the eurozone countries.  The EU’s new Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive has severely limited hedge fund operations while letting the banks off relatively scot free.  As a result, continental European banks have been able to nab clients (and their money) away from US and UK hedge funds. For this development, the hedge funds blame (rightly) the influence of the big German and French banks on member state governments, the European Central Bank and (above all) the European Commission.
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A major proponent of this line is Sir Paul Marshall, the pro-Brexit co-founder of Marshall Wace, one of Europe’s leading hedge funds.  Marshall argues that in France the ruling “énarques” (graduates of the elite Ecole Nationale d’Administration) are stuck in a revolving door between jobs in the big banks and jobs in government or the EU. According to Marshall, the result is that énarques like President Macron protect the interests of the big European banks.  Marshall, by the way, was a prominent Lib Dem, but he donated £100,000 to the Leave campaign.  Recently he made a bob or two out of shorting Carillion shares, helping put the company out of business.
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The antipathy of UK hedge funds to EU regulation means it is no surprise that prominent fund managers such as Crispin Odey and Michael Hintze support a hard Brexit and fund Boris.  Brexit is not a cry for help from the English underclass.  It is a carefully stage-managed campaign by global finance capital in the form of the hedge funds.  It is being orchestrated out of hedge fund self-interest and the greed of billionaires.  Boris Johnson is their front man.

The EU's anti-hedge fund legislation has hit hedge funds so hard they've been busy transferring assets to the EU, Rees-Mogg's fund merely being one of many to do so.

You haven't thought this through, have you?

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2 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

The EU's anti-hedge fund legislation has hit hedge funds so hard they've been busy transferring assets to the EU, Rees-Mogg's fund merely bring one of many to do so.

You haven't thought this through, have you?

The total value of hedge funds in the entire EU is around a tenth of that in the UK alone. Mogg opened a single fund in Dublin, he didn't transfer his fund there. This is what its all about, if you're too stupid to see what's right in front of you that's your problem. You can lead a horse to water...

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8 minutes ago, Kuro said:

The total value of hedge funds in the entire EU is around a tenth of that in the UK alone. Mogg opened a single fund in Dublin, he didn't transfer his fund there. This is what its all about, if you're too stupid to see what's right in front of you that's your problem. You can lead a horse to water...

So why didn't he open his fund outside the EU? 

M&G moving £36bn of funds to Luxembourg. That's a lot of lolly:

https://amp-ft-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.ft.com/content/831c060c-6b52-11e9-a9a5-351eeaef6d84?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcontent%2F831c060c-6b52-11e9-a9a5-351eeaef6d84

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6 hours ago, Kuro said:

Do you think they weren't aware that was on the horizon?

:lol:

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The rhetoric is now if they dont give us what we want its there fault if theres a no deal

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59 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

:lol:

How long do you think it takes to draft and pass legislation like that?  You fucking idiot

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13 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

The rhetoric is now if they dont give us what we want its there fault if theres a no deal

All part of the charade.

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See Nissan are cutting 12,500 jobs worldwide. Looks like the North East plant is for the chop. Poor wee Brexit voting Sunderland. 

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1 minute ago, dirty dingus said:

See Nissan are cutting 12,500 jobs worldwide. Looks like the North East plant is for the chop. Poor wee Brexit voting Sunderland. 

Probably blaming the Poles and Latvians as we speak.

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I thought Rees-Mogg's funds that he moved to Dublin were just investment trust as opposed to hedge funds?

 

 

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7 hours ago, dirty dingus said:

See Nissan are cutting 12,500 jobs worldwide. Looks like the North East plant is for the chop. Poor wee Brexit voting Sunderland. 

Not everyone from Sunderland voted Leave.

Regardless. A lot of ordinary men and women are losing their livelihoods over this and for many this will be catastrophic for the lives and their families futures.

Show some fucking class.

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