Colkitto Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I think Parliament has the ability to stop this; I hope they have the will. I predict one of the two major parties splitting. Either the Tories If May tries to compromise or Labour if Corbyn stands in the way of Parliament exerting it’s authority. Parliament is in deadlock. May has no room for manoeuvre and any concessions she can get will be minimal and subject to agreement with the EU. I see Ireland has ruled out bilateral talks with the UK. The EU standing firm and backing Ireland to the hilt. Backstop a huge huge problem for May. And it can't be resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Colkitto said: For me it's all smoke and mirrors now. May is counting down the clock until the very last moment she can present her deal to parliament. Then it will be my deal or no deal. Basically blackmailing the Commons to vote for her deal or the utter chaos of no deal. The English don't want a People's vote and don't mind a No deal according to SKY polling last night. So I'm convinced we'll end up with May's deal or No deal. Nothing will change from now till then. Our only escape now is independence. Good old British democracy eh! The worst thing about Brexit is that people expected the Tories to negotiate a deal which benefits the working people of the UK. Lolzzz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: Neither party will split, it is suicide in a FPTP democracy. The question is which party is most vulnerable to losing votes to a Tommy Robinson fronted UKIP. Maybe you’re too young to remember the SDP. I agree about self interested politicians but this might well go beyond that. I agree politically with Corbyn than I do with his detractors but he is making such a monumental f*ck up of Brexit I can see a reaction from the PLP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: Good old British democracy eh! The worst thing about Brexit is that people expected the Tories to negotiate a deal which benefits the working people of the UK. Lolzzz Mother of Parliaments... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Good old British democracy eh! The worst thing about Brexit is that people expected the Tories to negotiate a deal which benefits the working people of the UK. LolzzzCredit where it is due, in that the Tories STILL manage to hoodwink enough people into thinking they care about them. Fucking staggering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: Credit where it is due, in that the Tories STILL manage to hoodwink enough people into thinking they care about them. Fucking staggering. Sadly many people in the UK who own their own homes and have a few quid in the bank think that their interests are aligned with multi millionaires, tax dodgers and spivs. Totally delusional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lofarl Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/967080321475850240.html Can we not just abandon this shithole? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I may be wildly off beam here but I'm getting more optimistic by the day. For two and a half years a wholly compliant British media has blown smoke up May and the Tories arses on the subject of Brexit. The result of that was a 'nanny knows best' attitude from May and a shitload of braying bravado from the likes of Johnson, Gove and Rees-Mogg, totally blinded from reality. Push is now coming to shove however; Paliament and Bercow are belatedly growing a pair; the b*****d Irish will no longer be lectured to, and to crown it all the Europeans will not do May's bidding. All of which makes it incredible, to me at least, that she is trying to reheat her deal today. Wev are now approaching her last stand, and a dawning realisation of that will further increase the shrill headlines and bitter utterances from the likes of Fox. In short, I think Brexit is about to be royally fucked over - here's hoping. Edited January 21, 2019 by O'Kelly Isley III 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Colkitto said: The English don't want a People's vote and don't mind a No deal according to SKY polling last night. Sky are now saying that 26% thought that "No Deal Brexit" means staying in the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Sky are now saying that 26% thought that "No Deal Brexit" means staying in the EU. I'm pretty certain some of those polled would also say they voted leave thinking it meant staying in the EU just without having any of those pesky tourists to deal with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, jamieson87 said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, jamieson87 said: A time limited backstop is a non starter. The EU27 have said this from Day 1 and have explained the reason why. What happened to “This is the only deal”? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Sky are now saying that 26% thought that "No Deal Brexit" means staying in the EU. A twitter poll so bots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Tick-tock! Quote No second vote on Brexit deal likely before February, says No 10 Vote next week will not be ‘meaningful’ as Theresa May continues to find solution May’s spokesman said the vote due to be held on 29 January was not “a second meaningful vote” and the government’s motion would not spell out in detail the next stage of the prime minister’s plan to get a Brexit deal through parliament. Edited January 21, 2019 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 For me it's all smoke and mirrors now. May is counting down the clock until the very last moment she can present her deal to parliament. Then it will be my deal or no deal. Basically blackmailing the Commons to vote for her deal or the utter chaos of no deal. The English don't want a People's vote and don't mind a No deal according to SKY polling last night. So I'm convinced we'll end up with May's deal or No deal. Nothing will change from now till then. Our only escape now is independence. So when does NS hit the button, March 30th? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, RedRob72 said: So when does NS hit the button, March 30th? She'll hit the button when she's confident that enough heads are gone to ensure that people actually turn up on the day and vote YES. This will only happen when reality really hits home for people who are too disengaged to figure out just how badly its going to impact them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 She'll hit the button when she's confident that enough heads are gone to ensure that people actually turn up on the day and vote YES. This will only happen when reality really hits home for people who are too disengaged to figure out just how badly its going to impact them.6 Months, 12 Months, 2 Years? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, RedRob72 said: 6 Months, 12 Months, 2 Years? There's no dead set timeline. It's simply a case of when enough people wake the f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, btb said: Tick-tock! Quote No second vote on Brexit deal likely before February, says No 10 Vote next week will not be ‘meaningful’ as Theresa May continues to find solution May’s spokesman said the vote due to be held on 29 January was not “a second meaningful vote” and the government’s motion would not spell out in detail the next stage of the prime minister’s plan to get a Brexit deal through parliament. Just a "pretend one" then ?? Has anyone bothered asking her what the point of it actually is ? (apart from this procedural nonsense to allow amendments which don't actually change anything). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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