speckled tangerine Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Absolutely correct. As long as everything is within the law there should be no victimisation. Thats what the FSU stands for. Right you are then.... "In January 2021, a group of student activists who had joined the Free Speech Youth Advisory Board criticised the way the organisation was run, saying that they were censured if they disagreed with the groups right-of-centre views.[8] Having been led to believe that it was a grassroots campaign, they commented that it was an astroturfed front for the Free Speech Union.[8]" Oh, the irony! Edited June 3, 2021 by speckled tangerine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Denigrating people is all you seem able to do. The whole point of free speech is to allow people like Murray, Young and Biggar make their points and be challenged by people like you. BTW, the FSU are working hard on the case of the girl at Abertay who was threatened with expulsion for stating views on gender which are currently not popular. Thats why we need organisations like the FSU to protect us from the illiberal, intolerant left.Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. It never has.The regurgitation of this defence every time bigoted viewpoints collide with criticism is merely a tactic used to avoid accountability.We are all free to say whatever we like, but it doesn’t automatically follow that what we say will be received positively by the public, and nor does anybody have an automatic right to be given a ‘platform’ to air their views.While free speech is something to be cherished and upheld in any civilised democracy, so too is the right of the public to protest, complain and push back against hatred and bigotry.Those journalists, like Toby Young, who predictably line up to complain about the silencing of those with similar viewpoints to their own, are notably, and ironically, silent when minorities face consequences for the things they say online or in public. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Avon Barksdale said: Calling bullshit on this one. Let's see proof you give these grifters money please. I don’t intend to show you my credit card statements but I paid £25 for a years sub. You get regular newsletters and, if you get threatened with cancellation or victimisation, they have a pool of lawyers to help you. Go on, sign up, it’ll do you good. As I mentioned, they’re helping the girl at Abertay and various people who were threatened for calling out BLM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I don’t intend to show you my credit card statements but I paid £25 for a years sub. You get regular newsletters and, if you get threatened with cancellation or victimisation, they have a pool of lawyers to help you. Go on, sign up, it’ll do you good. As I mentioned, they’re helping the girl at Abertay and various people who were threatened for calling out BLM. Here's the story anyway for others (Dawson excepted) I referred to above. It's actually a hilarious read, full of deceit, agendas and a cast list of thoroughly repugnant individuals. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/09/students-quit-free-speech-campaign-over-role-of-toby-young-founded-group?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I don’t intend to show you my credit card statements but I paid £25 for a years sub. You get regular newsletters and, if you get threatened with cancellation or victimisation, they have a pool of lawyers to help you. Sure you did m9. Show us the newsletter then. 13 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Go on, sign up, it’ll do you good. Why ? I can say whatever I want to. What is it you want to say that you're not allowed to ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Denigrating people is all you seem able to do. The whole point of free speech is to allow people like Murray, Young and Biggar make their points and be challenged by people like you. BTW, the FSU are working hard on the case of the girl at Abertay who was threatened with expulsion for stating views on gender which are currently not popular. Thats why we need organisations like the FSU to protect us from the illiberal, intolerant left.Not all as it may seem.https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/2245807/abertay-students-faced-severe-backlash-after-complaint-about-classmate-sparked-free-speech-row/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Avon Barksdale said: Sure you did m9. Show us the newsletter then. Why ? I can say whatever I want to. What is it you want to say that you're not allowed to ? I'll second that. Like Avon said, what EXACTLY are you prevented from saying publically now that you want to? Be very specific...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Dawson Park Boy now trying even harder than Kincardine. What a sad, depressing pair of bigoted losers [emoji23] 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Absolutely correct. As long as everything is within the law there should be no victimisation. Thats what the FSU stands for. Is far-right activist Tommy Robinson still a member after Toby Young saying he would be welcomed to join? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, speckled tangerine said: I'll second that. Like Avon said, what EXACTLY are you prevented from saying publically now that you want to? Be very specific...... 1 minute ago, speckled tangerine said: I'll second that. Like Avon said, what EXACTLY are you prevented from saying publically now that you want to? Be very specific...... I stated on here that I did not like the BLM movement and I disagreed with ‘taking the knee’ at football matches and another poster tried to have me binned from here. What is wrong with saying that? Okay, you can disagree but what is wrong with it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I stated on here that I did not like the BLM movement and I disagreed with ‘taking the knee’ at football matches and another poster tried to have me binned from here. What is wrong with saying that? Okay, you can disagree but what is wrong with it? LOL....whit? Nothing wrong with that view and many agree with that. Personally, I think it's become a bit of a platitude. However, that's not against the law and here you are and therefore, not emptied from this site. So, back onto Toby Young's free speech rollercoaster. Again, what CAN'T you say now that you'd like to say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I don’t intend to show you my credit card statements but I paid £25 for a years sub. You get regular newsletters and, if you get threatened with cancellation or victimisation, they have a pool of lawyers to help you. Go on, sign up, it’ll do you good. As I mentioned, they’re helping the girl at Abertay and various people who were threatened for calling out BLM. Does it apply for PnB cancellations? Asking for a friend... Edited June 3, 2021 by Stormzy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, speckled tangerine said: LOL....whit? Nothing wrong with that view and many agree with that. Personally, I think it's become a bit of a platitude. However, that's not against the law and here you are and therefore, not emptied from this site. So, back onto Toby Young's free speech rollercoaster. Again, what CAN'T you say now that you'd like to say? Fùck all. It's aimed at enabling those who would like to be a lot more racist or phobic to be just that. For cùnts, by cùnts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, HTG said: Fùck all. It's aimed at enabling those who would like to be a lot more racist or phobic to be just that. For cùnts, by cùnts. You know that. I know that. f**k it, Dawson knows that. His half arsed attempts to justify the "aims" of this bunch of goons tells you everything you need to know. A further five minute Google of the other named individuals on their website confirms everything you expected to see. Strong connections to Brillo-heids new outfit too. We'll be hearing a lot more from this shower of bigoted charlatans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 From Reddit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 A lot of supermarket profiteering going on right now as prices are soaring week on week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Spoke to a guy yesterday who needed a replacement part for his printer and has previously sourced same from Germany at a cost of £500. Went to order it this time - £1250. Phoned them to query huge increase and was told it was due to UK leaving EU. On top of that he'd have to pay £275 import tax to the UK govt. They should just change gov.uk to tinpot.uk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, HTG said: Spoke to a guy yesterday who needed a replacement part for his printer and has previously sourced same from Germany at a cost of £500. Went to order it this time - £1250. Phoned them to query huge increase and was told it was due to UK leaving EU. On top of that he'd have to pay £275 import tax to the UK govt. They should just change gov.uk to tinpot.uk. If the UK tax is to be payed seperately, it looks like they're charging £750 to fill out a customs declaration. While there will of course be some additional costs in exporting out of the EU, I suspect many companies are taking full advantage of Brexit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shipa said: If the UK tax is to be payed seperately, it looks like they're charging £750 to fill out a customs declaration. While there will of course be some additional costs in exporting out of the EU, I suspect many companies are taking full advantage of Brexit. Very possibly but not to the point where they may lose the business I wouldn't have thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 43 minutes ago, HTG said: Spoke to a guy yesterday who needed a replacement part for his printer and has previously sourced same from Germany at a cost of £500. Went to order it this time - £1250. Phoned them to query huge increase and was told it was due to UK leaving EU. On top of that he'd have to pay £275 import tax to the UK govt. They should just change gov.uk to tinpot.uk. How long ago is it since he got it for £500.00 - pre Brexit referendum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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