O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Tories want us to fucking starve.The Tories must be privately getting very concerned about the optics of all of this. It wouldn't take much perceived hardship for a population mostly, and I stress mostly, unused to it to take a very dim view of such matters. Brexit was prosecuted on the basis of bombast and ignorance and now reality is biting. Bring it on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 12 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Tories want us to fucking starve. The Tories must be privately getting very concerned about the optics of all of this. It wouldn't take much perceived hardship for a population mostly, and I stress mostly, unused to it to take a very dim view of such matters. Brexit was prosecuted on the basis of bombast and ignorance and now reality is biting. Bring it on. Some Tories probably are. Some are so out of touch they think that jokey references to the fish being British are what the plebs want. Very marie antoinette. And we know how that ended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, coprolite said: Some Tories probably are. Some are so out of touch they think that jokey references to the fish being British are what the plebs want. Very marie antoinette. And we know how that ended. The Tories have a majority of over 80 and we are almost four years away from another GE. That’s why they don’t give a fùck. We live in an elected dictatorship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, thisal said: Quick Question. Scotland becomes independent in the EU. How will this help food imports and exports to the EU that go through Dover? Surely they'll have to go through customs at Gretna and Dover. Not sure about the final deal but this is an early picture of what we might expect form the Irish example, sealed containers getting fast tracked and the like. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/brexit-system-agreed-for-irish-goods-to-skip-checks-on-uk-trade-1.4295296 Edited January 16, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The Tories have a majority of over 80 and we are almost four years away from another GE. That’s why they don’t give a fùck. We live in an elected dictatorship. That’s a big part of it. Another big part of it is that they just genuinely don't care about other people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The Tories have a majority of over 80 and we are almost four years away from another GE. That’s why they don’t give a fùck. We live in an elected dictatorship. You forgot the supine opposition Granny. But it's not as simple as that. There's a growing anger amongst natural Tory supporters - farmers, fishermen, road haulers - and when the effects of EU departure become visible in services, banking, freedom of movement and rising unemployment there could be considerable political pressure. comfortable majority or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The Tories have a majority of over 80 and we are almost four years away from another GE. That’s why they don’t give a fùck. We live in an elected dictatorship. You forgot the supine opposition Granny. But it's not as simple as that. There's a growing anger amongst natural Tory supporters - farmers, fishermen, road haulers - and when the effects of EU departure become visible in services, banking, freedom of movement and rising unemployment there could be considerable political pressure. comfortable majority or not. I’ll give you the supine opposition, though given our setup opposition is a very difficult gig. It doesn’t matter how vocal the opposition is from within the Tory faithful there is literally nothing they can do. Maybe a couple of years before the next GE some will start to take notice (and Johnson will be bounced) but there is no empirical evidence to suggest that a ruling party with a healthy majority can be pressurised with four years left to govern. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Not sure about the final deal but this is an early picture of what we might expect form the Irish example, sealed containers getting fast tracked and the like. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/brexit-system-agreed-for-irish-goods-to-skip-checks-on-uk-trade-1.4295296 It doesn't seem to be working as yet - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55682597 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 24 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The Tories have a majority of over 80 and we are almost four years away from another GE. That’s why they don’t give a fùck. We live in an elected dictatorship. You forgot the supine opposition Granny. But it's not as simple as that. There's a growing anger amongst natural Tory supporters - farmers, fishermen, road haulers - and when the effects of EU departure become visible in services, banking, freedom of movement and rising unemployment there could be considerable political pressure. comfortable majority or not. They might topple Boris but I dread to think who would replace him. No way will they force an election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: Ha ha, stupid naïve fleg waving arseholes who nobody gives a shit about.@Jacksgranda and his staunchness been sorely let down. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55666666 A Yes vote in 2014 would have been a one way ticket to similar disruption in a Scottish context. Maybe it would have been better if everybody across the British Isles would have given identity politics a rest and we could all have focussed on being European? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 For the record, I am not in the least surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: A Yes vote in 2014 would have been a one way ticket to similar disruption in a Scottish context. Nope. The EU loves a transition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: A Yes vote in 2014 would have been a one way ticket to similar disruption in a Scottish context. Maybe it would have been better if everybody across the British Isles would have given identity politics a rest and we could all have focussed on being European? Nonsense. 62 countries have left the auspices of the UK and countless more around the world. There is a very clear path with a multitude of examples. Complete opposite to leaving the EU which nobody had ever done before. See when people say stuff like lets leave identity politics you really mean lets all stay British eh, cause its your identity that's more important, but you have to pretend its not about that or the intellectual bankruptcy of your argument is laid bare. As it happens we'd all remain British anyway but politically is what I'm talking about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I'd imagine that Rosyth will get an upgrade. Anything going through Gretna will be for England and Wales only. Yeah Ireland have done this in the space of a fortnight with is it Rosslaire or something. Already up and running and bypassing Dover completely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, thisal said: Makes sense Should the Scottish not be investing in Rosyth now. Maybe under the guise of easing congestion at Dover. Plenty of time if&when we win IndyRef 2... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The reality of Brexit in 26 tweets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The reality of Brexit in 26 tweets.One for the PTTGOYN thread, but why not write one easy-to-read post for your website and link to it rather than split something over twenty-six awkwardly contracted paragraphs? Twitter is shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, DiegoDiego said: your website Daniel has 1,324 followers who may or may not know he has a website, grandad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Yeah Ireland have done this in the space of a fortnight with is it Rosslaire or something. Already up and running and bypassing Dover completely.They did, think it was covered by an additional ferry service Wexford to Cherbourg. Amazing what you can do when you run your own affairs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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