peternapper Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 England has never been wanting a deal since it kicked off, if the country recovers from coronavirus Boris will just use it as an excuse to leave regardless & blame the EU for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 The UK Government can say whatever they fucking like, but consider this. Such has been the pace and reach of the Covid-19 pandemic that anyone trying to hold to a plan for the next nine days, never mind nine months, is delusional in the extreme.Just like Trump trying to wish America back to work in order to stop the US economy tanking ahead of a Presidential election, the Tories are playing this propaganda card to assert their can-do credentials. Fact is, Brexit itself could be a Coronavirus casualty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: The UK Government can say whatever they fucking like, but consider this. Such has been the pace and reach of the Covid-19 pandemic that anyone trying to hold to a plan for the next nine days, never mind nine months, is delusional in the extreme. Just like Trump trying to wish America back to work in order to stop the US economy tanking ahead of a Presidential election, the Tories are playing this propaganda card to assert their can-do credentials. Fact is, Brexit itself could be a Coronavirus casualty. Coronavirus may very well delay Brexit, but it certainly won't wipe it out - not even cause a rethink. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Coronavirus may very well delay Brexit, but it certainly won't wipe it out - not even cause a rethink.“Rethink” implies that some thought went into it initially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Coronavirus may very well delay Brexit, but it certainly won't wipe it out - not even cause a rethink.We shall see. When much of British industry and commerce is on the bones of its post-Coronavirus arse the last thing it will need will be what was already an act of economic suicide. There's a long way to go yet on Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 12 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: Coronavirus may very well delay Brexit, but it certainly won't wipe it out - not even cause a rethink. We shall see. When much of British industry and commerce is on the bones of its post-Coronavirus arse the last thing it will need will be what was already an act of economic suicide. There's a long way to go yet on Brexit. Accrington's not going to like it. They're already blaming the EU for, not only introducing Coronavirus to our shores, but for inflicting our dear Boris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 14 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: Coronavirus may very well delay Brexit, but it certainly won't wipe it out - not even cause a rethink. We shall see. When much of British industry and commerce is on the bones of its post-Coronavirus arse the last thing it will need will be what was already an act of economic suicide. There's a long way to go yet on Brexit. Dream on. Remain's consistent strategy was to scare the population with the message that 5 years after Brexit the economy might be 5% smaller. If this coronavirus makes the economy stall* and shrink 15-20% almost instantly, then do you really think the scare tactic will have much effect? And do you really think an EU, that has just suffered the same contraction, will still allow its fanatics to try to inflict a trade-deal punishment beating on the UK - which is to the EU's mutual disadvantage? I would expect, after a period of life and death concerns, people will froth less about the mere matter of leaving an economic club. * Topcat - please note correct use of the word! Edited March 28, 2020 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Dream on. Remain's consistent strategy was to scare the population with the message that 5 years after Brexit the economy might be 5% smaller. If this coronavirus makes the economy stall* and shrink 15-20% almost instantly, then do you really think the scare tactic will have much effect? And do you really think an EU, that has just suffered the same contraction, will still allow its fanatics to try to inflict a trade-deal punishment beating on the UK - which is to the EU's mutual disadvantage? I would expect, after a period of life and death concerns, people will froth less about the mere matter of leaving an economic club. * Topcat - please note correct use of the word!Stall FFS ? Tank, more like it, with Remain's prediction now looking like a bump in the road. What you are suggesting is akin to telling someone who is barely recovering from TB that we'll continue to saw your leg off as planned, but not to worry as everything will be fine.Why exactly do you think people like Raab are still beating the Brexit drum ? Because they well know and fear that with every day that passes what was once mere idiocy will quickly morph into disaster in the eyes of more and more people, businesses and organisations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Missed email my arse. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/uk-discussed-joint-eu-plan-to-buy-covid-19-medical-supplies-say-officials 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) On 28/03/2020 at 11:48, Pet Jeden said: I would expect, after a period of life and death concerns, people will froth less about the mere matter of leaving an economic club. The state of the economy can be life or death for many. Or do you not know anyone who's worried sick about their rent or their job right now? Wage cuts, redundancies and debt all around me here – and you think that in a few months' time people are going to brush away the prospect of more economic upheaval like it might be a good idea? Edited March 31, 2020 by Mr Heliums 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Heliums said: The state of the economy can be life or death for many. Or do you not know anyone who's worried sick about their rent or their job right now? Wage cuts, redundancies and debt all around me here – and you think that in a few months' time people are going to brush away the prospect of more economic upheaval like it might be a good idea? The point that the (whole) post made was we are in the midst of an instant shut down of half of the economy and a 15-20% hit in 2021 was forecast for the economy. As you say, folk don’t know if they have jobs to go back to and how they are going to pay rents and mortgages after a few months. After enduring that, do you really think people are going to be scared by a forecast that the total size (not per head btw) of the Brexit UK economy will grow 1% pa less over the next 5 years? Edited March 31, 2020 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 43 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: The state of the economy can be life or death for many. Or do you not know anyone who's worried sick about their rent or their job right now? Wage cuts, redundancies and debt all around me here – and you think that in a few months' time people are going to brush away the prospect of more economic upheaval like it might be a good idea? There’s another reason I think that people will not have any appetite for reopening the whole Brexit issue. It has been national governments (and councils and utilities) that have clearly been seen to be crucial to peoples lives - health services, wage guarantees, repatriations, rubbish collection, electricity, water., lockdowns, border closures etc. Soon it will be wholesale bail outs for whole industries (outwith EU state aid rules)? The EU has seemed like a complete irrelevance. We are only one week into this lockdown though. Things could look very different in a month- let alone a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Has there been any crackpots on Facebook/twitter yet saying that the coronavirus is just invented to stop Brexit happening? There must be. Folk are looney tunes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanton Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Has there been any crackpots on Facebook/twitter yet saying that the coronavirus is just invented to stop Brexit happening? There must be. Folk are looney tunes. Probably the same kind of folks who thought that drinking Corona Beer or Eating Chinese take away food gave you the virus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Jeremy Hunt warning that Brexit will make it harder for UK to deal with any pandemics in the future. Also there’s still huge gaps to fill on healthcare before the proposed leave date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Jeremy Hunt warning that Brexit will make it harder for UK to deal with any pandemics in the future. Makes a change from Jeremy Hunt making harder to deal with pandemics (or anything). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Aaron Banks trying to use the ECHR to get out of paying his bill to the UK is top notch Brexit banter years. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/02/arron-banks-fails-to-use-european-laws-to-avoid-paying-162000-tax-bill 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 31/03/2020 at 09:13, Suspect Device said: Has there been any crackpots on Facebook/twitter yet saying that the coronavirus is just invented to stop Brexit happening? There must be. Folk are looney tunes. I'd seen some religious nutjob blame it on the gays 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Aaron Banks trying to use the ECHR to get out of paying his bill to the UK is top notch Brexit banter years. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/02/arron-banks-fails-to-use-european-laws-to-avoid-paying-162000-tax-bill Gives nearly £1M to UKIP over 5 months but fights tooth and nail to avoid a £160k tax bill. What a guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I'd seen some religious nutjob blame it on the gaysThere's a Ballymena Unionist councillor citing God's verdict on the recent changes in NI abortion law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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