Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[Jacksgranda]

24 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Westminster can take away Holyrood's consent with a one line bill right now.

Like this - "Up yours, Jocks, we're taking back control"?

[Granny Danger]

19 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Like this - "Up yours, Jocks, we're taking back control"?

Is that the wording of the Bill?  Ballsy.

[DublinMagyar]

Mundell would vote for this

Like this - "Up yours, Jocks, we're taking back control"?

[DublinMagyar]

And Davidson would justify it

 

 

 

 

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Westminster can take away Holyrood's consent with a one line bill right now.

With a parliamentary majority.

[wastecoatwilly]

4 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

Like this - "Up yours, Jocks, we're taking back control"?

Devolution disnae work anyway,Paris will never be as good as California. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by wastecoatwilly

[Blue-Toon]

Is that Brexit in the bag now that Farage has stood down most of the Brexit Party candidates or could there be some unexpected twists before the election?

[Ross.]

2 minutes ago, Manfred said:

Ooft!

 

58% of Britons would cut Northern Ireland loose if it meant getting a good deal from the EU

35% would prefer to build a wall around it, 5% couldn't give a shit, and the other 2% are loyalists.

[steelmen]

3 hours ago, Blue-Toon said:

Is that Brexit in the bag now that Farage has stood down most of the Brexit Party candidates or could there be some unexpected twists before the election?

Get the feeling they couldn't afford the fee for standing to get 600 odd candidates together to stand for

[Cerberus]

3 hours ago, Manfred said:

Ooft!

 

58% of Britons would cut Northern Ireland loose if it meant getting a good deal from the EU

Absolutely embarrassing from DUP/Rangers Football Club types that they mean so little to the rUK yet the UK is everything to them.

 

[Blootoon87]

They're the crazy chick that you had a one night stand who is making dinner and talking about your future together as you are calling the cops

Wid.

[Suspect Device]

Tim Martin has his usual Brexit chat to Wetherspoons shareholders in the trading statement today.

 

Quote

People and organisations make mistakes when they act on false presumptions - Sceptics create a debate, which aids the quest for truth

 

Consciously or not, we humans sift through what we hear and see, daily, to try to work out what's true

and what's not.

 

Democracies, education and a free press best facilitate this process.

 

Perhaps health is the area where we are most inclined to fall for quack remedies and elixirs for longer life - health and dietary myths are difficult to disprove and so last a long time, before assignment to

the dustbin.

 

For many centuries, getting caught in the rain was felt to be the precursor to a cold; now, we know that a cold is a virus and that rain has been innocent all this time.

 

For most of the last 50 years, so-called experts in the medical profession and government fed the myth that dairy products were 'bad for you', giving rise to a vast margarine and skimmed milk industry.

 

Limit egg consumption to two a week, we were told. Eating an omelette was as risky as white water rafting, it seemed.

 

Except, of course, the truth slowly emerged that the demonisation of dairy had never been true, however biologically plausible the arguments - eggs have even been rehabilitated, by some

iconoclasts, as 'superfoods'.

 

These medical myths often become fads which sweep the entire world - the Atkins, South Sea and 5-2 diets have been successful businesses for their creators, but almost certainly have zero long-term benefits.

 

Gary Taubes, writing in the New York Times in 2012 brilliantly undermined the probably mistaken view, still prevalent today, that salt is a serious medical hazard.

 

The NHS advises that salt consumption per person should be reduced to six grams per day from our

current eight - which will almost certainly reduce life expectancy, many believe.

 

Indeed, sceptics like Taubes, who 'swim against the tide', often play a hugely important role in limiting the impact of the constant barrage of false information which fills the airwaves.

 

In trying to separate the wheat from the chaff for yourself, finding a 'small truth' which contradicts a widely held belief is always a good starting point.

 

For example, if salt is bad for you, how come the Italians, who consume far more of it than we do, live longer?

 

Unless there is a good explanation, salt is perhaps unfairly maligned.

 

One of my own 'small truths', in the early days of Wetherspoon, was that my pals and I went out mostly to talk; this was made far more difficult (and less enjoyable) by music blaring in pubs, restaurants and clubs, as it usually is still today - the music-free hunch was right and forms an important part of our business today.

 

The trenchant debate surrounding Brexit, thanks to our democratic freedom, has, in my view, exploded myths and increased knowledge on key subjects like trade, tariffs, government and Europe - on a vast scale.

 

For example, the pugnacious Jean-Marc Puissesseau, head of Calais ports, has completely

undermined the false presumption that the channel ports will seize up post Brexit, without a 'deal'.

 

"There will be no queues," says Mr Puissesseau - "C'est la bulls…."

 

Irish airline Ryanair has recently exploded the fallacy that planes wouldn't fly without a deal - it's no longer an issue, they say, supported by British Airways.

 

Perhaps the hardest myth to disprove, in recent years, has been that UK banks would relocate en masse to the continent - which has turned out to be nonsense.

 

More people are employed in the City today than before the referendum - and thousands of mini initiatives have been undertaken by City of London individuals and organisations to ensure that trade continues.

 

But there's one enduring myth, broadly accepted by both Leavers and Remainers, which needs to be killed off now.

 

This is that the UK, and economies generally, are axiomatically better off, if politicians organise vast and all-encompassing trade deals.

 

In reality, common sense and experience indicate that vast teams of lawyers and civil servants trying to encompass every future trading eventuality in a mega document - or a deal - is a potential minefield of trouble.

 

Look at the problems suffered by African farmers who've been legged over in so-called 'free-trade' deals with the lawyer-dominated EU.

 

A whole range of mini deals is surely better. Let Mr Puissesseau and his British counterparts, facilitated by civil servants, of course, if required, sort out the channel ports.

 

Let Ryanair, British Airways and the relevant aviation organisations agree on a sensible modus operandi.

 

Let City of London banks, helped, where needed, by government officials, arrange their own cross-border affairs.

 

Let Wetherspoon arrange brandy from Australia and sparkling wine from England, if we feel that continental supplies are in jeopardy (we agreed with Mr Puissesseau about this, but wanted to

prove that there are always non-EU alternatives).

 

Let the excellent Swedish company Kopparberg produce cider in Somerset, which it now does.

 

The idea that you need to sign a vast mega deal with the EU or the USA is beloved of lawyers and bureaucrats and is almost universally accepted - yet is a myth….    "

 

 

[BFTD]

You'd sell your shares just to avoid having to read that wall of irrelevant shite. All their shareholders will care about is how much money they're making.

[Suspect Device]

You get the same waffle in every RNS. I've not got shares in Wetherspoons. I just like to read them to see what he's saying now. Like you say, irrelevant to most of the shareholders.

[Ross.]

1 hour ago, Suspect Device said:

Perhaps health is the area where we are most inclined to fall for quack remedies and elixirs for longer life - health and dietary myths are difficult to disprove and so last a long time, before assignment to the dustbin.

I'd certainly suggest avoiding the food his pubs serve up as a means of enjoying a healthier lifestyle.

[Cerberus]

You'd sell your shares just to avoid having to read that wall of irrelevant shite. All their shareholders will care about is how much money they're making.

I got down to the bit where he said ‘so called experts’.

If ever there was a mark of a numpty, that’s it.

[Fullerene]

2 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

You'd sell your shares just to avoid having to read that wall of irrelevant shite. All their shareholders will care about is how much money they're making.

Yeah and what's with all these words?  The review should be full of pie charts, bar charts, line graphs and clip art diagrams that treat me like a five year old.

That way as a shareholder I only have to spend ten seconds deciding if I want to stick with Wetherspoons.

Oops.  I seemed to have used a lot of words here.  Sorry.

[Gaz FFC]

On 11/11/2019 at 17:14, Cerberus said:

Absolutely embarrassing from DUP/Rangers Football Club types that they mean so little to the rUK yet the UK is everything to them.

 

Same with 2012 and HMRC.

We love you Queeny.

Queeny - shut it down

[Big Rider]

2 hours ago, Cerberus said:

 

I got down to the bit where he said ‘so called experts’.

If ever there was a mark of a numpty, that’s it.

 

Exactly this. You could add it to the Phrases that scream arsehole thread too.

[btb]

From today's Guardian...

 

Quote

 

Tesla cites Brexit as Germany chosen over UK for European plant

US electric carmaker will build battery factory in Berlin, says boss Elon Musk