LongTimeLurker Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Nope. Voting no. Only way Boris will get this through is if the EU say, we are categorically not Extending, so it's this deal or no deal Complete the following for what the DUP will do, if NI is getting somewhat detached from GB. Ulster says .... Doubt the EU would do that on the second bit given a late November general election might lead to a better outcome for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Deal fails to pass. Labour offer to support it with confirmatory referendum. Will Johnson (or enough MPs in total) buy that? Why would they when they will then have their ultimate goal of no deal in touching distance. It will be accept this "new" deal or no deal when it comes to the vote with the DUP holding sway with which it's to be. Corbyn should be ashamed of his part in all this if it comes to pass this way. Fiddling while Rome burned for years thinking he was playing a long game when really he hasn't had a clue all along and he has been out thought by the Tory twats ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: What about the 20 or so tories who were kicked out the party? Are they back in now? Expect Johnson will get enough of them and a few Labour to take him over the line, especially if the DUP abstain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Johnson needs 320 votes. Tories - 287. Independents - Maybe 25 of 34 including 15 of 21 kicked out Tories at most. Labour - 5? Just a guess but would lose unless some abstain. Workers protections have been removed so many Labour dissidents will be less inclined to vote for ‘deal’. Edited October 17, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Not sure what a GE will resolve tbh. Just keep going round in circles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Johnson needs 320 votes. Tories - 287. Independents - Maybe 25 of 34 including 15 of 21 kicked out Tories at most. Labour - 5? Just a guess but would lose unless some abstain. Workers protections have been removed so many Labour dissidents will be less inclined to vote for ‘deal’. If any, and I mean any Labour MP's vote for this then they must be kicked out of the party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: ERG very quiet. Suggests to me that they will fall in line. Good. I struggle to cope with the likes of Francois, Baker and the 'spartans' patter. They're small men on a big stage and one of the worst outcomes of the entire Brexit debacle has been the raising of their profile to catastrophically high levels. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Complete the following for what the DUP will do, if NI is getting somewhat detached from GB. Ulster says .... How much are you paying us and can we disguise it well enough that it goes to the individuals we give you the names of? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They could lose seats in an incoming General Election and there could be a Stormont election soon as well where they could lose their majority, especially if they get the blame for a hard brexit. You really misunderstand what the DUP are all about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I remain of the view that the Conservative party is in implode mode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I don't see how this will get through, but have a sneaking suspicion it will somehow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I don’t think this deals going through. Genuinely think there might be rioting in the streets of Engerland come the 31st of October. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Londonwell said: You really misunderstand what the DUP are all about. They aren't all about sectarianism and flegs, they're very keen on money too. See Paisley Jnr's 5* all inclusive holidays and this book coming out tomorrow. Edited October 17, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tintax Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Media reporting that it will be a choice between this and no deal, in parliament on Saturday. Which is in fact no choice atall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ross. said: How much are you paying us and can we disguise it well enough that it goes to the individuals we give you the names of? A reminder of how the DUP got its start and what is still deeply encoded into its political DNA: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: I don’t think this deals going through. Genuinely think there might be vexatious muttering in the nursing homes of Engerland come the 31st of October. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I think this deal will squeak through but with caveats. A referendum to be launched to ratify the deal or not followed by a general election which hopefully jets us to the start of the break up of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, tintax said: Media reporting that it will be a choice between this and no deal, in parliament on Saturday. Which is in fact no choice atall. They can report what they want but it’s factually incorrect. The government cannot reject amendments and the Benn Act kicks in if the proposed deal is not agreed. The media, if they were doing their jobs, should be making that clear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: They can report what they want but it’s factually incorrect. The government cannot reject amendments and the Benn Act kicks in if the proposed deal is not agreed. The media, if they were doing their jobs, should be making that clear. Our media? Oh yeah! They are so impartial and upstanding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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