Blue Brazil Forever Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Lock him up. Lock him up. https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-could-go-to-jail-if-he-refuses-to-delay-brexit-says-former-prosecutions-chief-11804290 Who in God's name wants to have anything to do with an organisation where Prime Ministers can be sent to jail for refusing to do as they are told. The sooner we are out the better!!! Oops almost forgot Spain is more than ready to imprison senior politicians and it is /was not uncommon among the other EU member states. Be very careful Nicola not to piss people off. You already have one very senior party member in the mire . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 It's well known that once you send a politician to jail that they change their ways and are never heard of again. What could go wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I'm getting the impression from this story that Nicholas Soames is not a huge fan of Jacob Rees-Mogg https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1174964/Brexit-news-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-no-deal-EU-exit-Sir-Nicholas-Soames-general-election 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Suspect Device said: Lock him up. Lock him up. https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-could-go-to-jail-if-he-refuses-to-delay-brexit-says-former-prosecutions-chief-11804290 Tory hard liners are egging Johnson on. Maybe they’d like to see him in jail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Thing that confuses me is whether if Johnson loses a VONC after refusing to ask the EU for an extension, and the opposition unite around a new PM, would it still take 2 weeks for them to take power, or is that just the maximum time before a GE is called? I don't give a f**k about Johnson doing a poor Tommy stint, better just to send him off to spend more time with his family. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 17:50, Lofarl said: His premiership ship will make for a decent chapter paragraph in his autobiography. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Johnson six weeks ago “Get off my fucking laptop!” Johnson six weeks from now “Get off my fucking arsehole. No, wait, didn’t I use to bugger you at school?” Edited September 7, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Thing that confuses me is whether if Johnson loses a VONC after refusing to ask the EU for an extension, and the opposition unite around a new PM, would it still take 2 weeks for them to take power, or is that just the maximum time before a GE is called? I don't give a f**k about Johnson doing a poor Tommy stint, better just to send him off to spend more time with his family. They could take power in a day if Boris goes to the Queen and tells her there's a new government on the first day. The issue is them organising the government and Boris playing ball. The opposition parties must know that a VONC is inevitable so they are surely already talking this out. As for Boris I think he would go to the Queen then immediately start campaigning on a betrayal narrative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: Thing that confuses me is whether if Johnson loses a VONC after refusing to ask the EU for an extension, and the opposition unite around a new PM, would it still take 2 weeks for them to take power, or is that just the maximum time before a GE is called? I don't give a f**k about Johnson doing a poor Tommy stint, better just to send him off to spend more time with his family. Think the existing government (and largest party) get 14 days to show Her Maj that they can form a stable government (e.g by getting votes of smaller parties with promises of whatever). So I would imagine if they triggered a VONC in themselves (assuming Bercow couldn't block)? any time from 17th Oct onwards, it surely means no deal. And if Boris doesn't want to go to jail, he can surely resign as PM on the 19th 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) It's all...all...alll.....all....all....all....all.about appealing to the right-wing Brexit fuckwits and their Telegraph/Express/Daily Mail cheerleaders. Johnston is the dancing monkey to Cummings being the organ grinder. They're staking everything on the populist bet that there are enough Brexit loving khunts in the country to vote for the Tories under Johnson, no matter what. The problem for them I suspect, is that as every day passes, Johnson looks more and more ridiculous. Edited September 7, 2019 by Bob Mahelp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneal Down Caster Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 OnCe Bojo wakes up on Monday, I wonder how many seats they will have. ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: It's all...all...alll.....all....all....all....all.about appealing to the right-wing Brexit fuckwits and their Telegraph/Express/Daily Mail cheerleaders. Johnston is the dancing monkey to Cummings being the organ grinder. They're staking everything on the populist bet that there are enough Brexit loving khunts in the country to vote for the Tories under Johnson, no matter what. The problem for them I suspect, is that as every day passes, Johnson looks more and more ridiculous. I posted this before I knew that Rudd had resigned. The breaking point for Johnson and his BNP/UKIP strategy is surely coming soon....a huge percentage of moderate Tory votes could well be going to the LibDems, and no matter how much the right-wing media trumpets how great Johnson is, he's surely destined to fail. We're days away from the Tories and Farage forming an 'official' alliance. It's delightful from a Scottish point of view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Think the existing government (and largest party) get 14 days to show Her Maj that they can form a stable government (e.g by getting votes of smaller parties with promises of whatever). So I would imagine if they triggered a VONC in themselves (assuming Bercow couldn't block)? any time from 17th Oct onwards, it surely means no deal. And if Boris doesn't want to go to jail, he can surely resign as PM on the 19th Not quite, if the house passes a motion showing it has no confidence in the government, there's a 14 day period for any MP to show HM that they can command the confidence of the house. That could mean a unity government being formed to exclude the Tories and DUP. Besides even if Boris tried to VONC himself, there's no guarantee the VONC would even pass. The government's "working majority" is -45 now that Amber Rudd has left the Tories. If the opposition want to trap Johnson they'll just vote no on a VONC motion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) I suspect the 14 days is the time limit for somebody to appear who has the confidence of the House before a GE is called, for 25 days later. So if Johnson has failed to get a deal by the 19th of October and refuses to ask for an extension, and Corbyn demands a VONC and wins, and if the opposition have already agreed on a caretaker PM, he/she could be appointed immediately and send the letter to the EU. So if the opposition keep solid there's f**k all Johnson can do. Edited September 7, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Donathan said: Not quite, if the house passes a motion showing it has no confidence in the government, there's a 14 day period for any MP to show HM that they can command the confidence of the house. That could mean a unity government being formed to exclude the Tories and DUP. Besides even if Boris tried to VONC himself, there's no guarantee the VONC would even pass. The government's "working majority" is -45 now that Amber Rudd has left the Tories. If the opposition want to trap Johnson they'll just vote no on a VONC motion. I think I understand that, just. But The existing Gov do get 14 days to fanny about trying to cobble together enough votes. " Hey, Nicola - how do you fancy an Indyref 2"? (No obligation to respect the outcome, mind) Oi, Jo. Howzabout a coalition and some nice ministerial Jags)? And while all this shenanigans is going on, parliamentary time for emergency hand-brake turns on no-deal gets burnt up. And presumably a Lib-Lab-SNP-Etc coalition would have to agree on more than just "let's get a 3 month extension" in order to persuade Boris to resign promptly and HM to appoint Corbyn as PM? It's a bit of a mess. The FTPA plus the Speaker opening the Pandora's Box of innovating with Parliaments customs have made things worse Edited September 7, 2019 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: List of medicines that will be in short supply after brexit: https://e-surgery.com/brexit-crisis-medication-shortage-list/ I didn’t believe the hysterical Project Fear nonsense that was thrown at Scottish Independence and I don’t believe the same nonsense now being thrown at Brexit. btw that article talks about shortages and price rises being caused by stockpiling / import rights fears. Why is any UK government going to restrict import rights? Edited September 8, 2019 by Pet Jeden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Rudd's resignation letter (apparently) confirms that there is virtually no effort going into finding a deal with the EU which, obviously, is a shock to no one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: And presumably a Lib-Lab-SNP-Etc coalition would have to agree on more than just "let's get a 3 month extension" in order to persuade Boris to resign promptly and HM to appoint Corbyn as PM? All the opposition have to do is keep solid till March 19th, call a VONC and choose a caretaker PM to last 25 days till a General Election, after the EU agree to an extension. The only way out for Johnson is getting a deal with the EU that Parliament somehow rushes through in ten days, which looks very unlikely. Cummings has been done up like a kipper, unless he can win the election of course. Edited September 8, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I'm looking forward to the Farage fascist fantasists reaction when all this mince falls apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I can't believe this 'strategy' has been thought up and put into action by actual adults. The whole thing hinged on Corbyn agreeing to an early election. Also blowing their muck too early with the whole 'end of austerity' announcement that absolutely nobody is talking about now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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