Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[scoobles]

What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now?

Charlie would drop dead of a heart attack at the thought of actually working for a living.
William would be distraught and go completely postal wiping out the wife and kids.
Harry becomes King and England gets its first black Queen.
Gammons self combust all over the shires

[MONKMAN]

I see the bigoted scum the DUP are backing Boris, no surprise there.

[Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier]

Just now, scoobles said:

Charlie would drop dead of a heart attack at the thought of actually working for a living.
William would be distraught and go completely postal wiping out the wife and kids.
Harry becomes King and England gets its first black Queen.
Gammons self combust all over the shires

Buck House moves to L.A.

[GiGi]

4 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

I see the bigoted scum the DUP are backing Boris, no surprise there.

"We look farward to re aligning ar interests with those of the new government and lining ar pockets further atchor expunse"

Edited August 28, 2019 by GiGi

[Double Jack D]

Jo Swinson just said on LBC that she has "written to the Queen?"

I wonder what that letter said, imagine the leader of the Lib Dems asked the Queen to ignore a sitting Prime Minister? Thats not very liberal or democratic....

[Dunfermline Don]

 
Big Ears and Camilla Shagbag would be in charge.

King Charles v Parliament/Government! Where have I heard that before.

[welshbairn]

1 minute ago, Double Jack D said:

Jo Swinson just said on LBC that she has "written to the Queen?"

I wonder what that letter said, imagine the leader of the Lib Dems asked the Queen to ignore a sitting Prime Minister? Thats not very liberal or democratic....

It's not democratic for a minority government to close parliament in order to force through measures against its will.

[doulikefish]

Jezza about to go live on cnn right now

[doulikefish]

Vnoc incoming

Jezza about to go live on cnn right now

[ICTJohnboy]

11 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Jezza about to go live on cnn right now

 

Just about the last person across the political spectrum to voice an opinion on this news.

Typical Corbyn.

[Hedgecutter]

51 minutes ago, Romeo said:

What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now?

A93 would probably be closed at Balmoral / Crathie with normal traffic being diverted along the B976 and A939 via Culsh.

[senorsoupe]

Not sure how constitutional this would be but it would be amazing if the Queen told Boris to throw his prorogation so far in the sea that it washes up in Calais.

[MuckleMoo]

Not sure this changes much to be honest.

There was already so little time left to do anything constructive through Parliment. All Boris is doing is playing to the gallery and poking the remainer MPs with a big stick.

He'll be hoping those on the remain side become utterly seething, turn to the electorate and say 'see, this is what I'm having to deal with' and then go for an election hoping for an increased majority.

The depressing thing is it'll probably work.

[welshbairn]

8 minutes ago, senorsoupe said:

Not sure how constitutional this would be but it would be amazing if the Queen told Boris to throw his prorogation so far in the sea that it washes up in Calais.

Something similar happened with your lot a few years ago.

Quote

Avoiding a no-confidence motion (Canada 2008)
Following Canada’s federal elections in 2008, Stephen Harper formed a
minority administration and had recently secured the confidence of the
House of Commons in the Canadian equivalent of a Queen’s Speech.
Within weeks, however, the two main opposition parties (the Liberals
and New Democratic Party) had reached an agreement and wished to
form an alternative coalition government. This would, they had agreed,
be supported by a confidence and supply arrangement with the Bloc
Québécois. A motion of no confidence in the Government was tabled.
 
Rather than face the (then likely) defeat on a vote of no confidence,
Stephen Harper asked the Governor General to prorogue Parliament.
The arguments made in favour of this prorogation included that:
• the Government had not formally lost the confidence of the
House, the House’s confidence in the Government had recently
been explicitly confirmed, and the Governor General should
therefore follow the advice of the Prime Minister;
• the opposition pact was fragile and would not form a stable
government if the Prime Minister were to resign in favour of it;
• there had, mere weeks prior to these events, been a federal
election: holding another so soon afterwards would not have
been in the interests of responsible government; and
• there would, in any case, be another opportunity for confidence
in the government to be tested when it brought forward the
budget on return from any period of prorogation.
The contrary arguments were that:
• in Canada prorogation is a “reserve power”: while the Governor
General takes advice from the Prime Minister on the exercise of
such powers, she is not bound to follow it, especially not where
confidence is absent or in question;
• a Prime Minister who is about to lose a vote of confidence should
not be able to deprive the legislature of a reasonable opportunity
to debate the matter: for him even to make the request was an
undemocratic abuse of power;
• under Canada’s constitutional arrangements a temporary loss of
confidence in the Government could be remedied without a castiron requirement for either the Government to resign or another
election to be held; and
• whatever the Prime Minister’s or Governor General’s assessment
of the viability or stability of an alternative Government, that is
not a reason in insolation to disregard or prevent the expression
of the lack of confidence the House may have in the incumbent
administration.
In the event the Governor General acceded to the Prime Minister’s
request for a prorogation but on the understanding that a budget
would be brought forward shortly after the prorogation had elapsed.
Crucially, the Governor General took into account, but did not consider
herself to be bound by, the advice given by the Prime Minister in this
particular context.
As events transpired, the political accord between the opposition parties
did not last during the period of prorogation. The Harper administration
successfully passed its budget and continued in office.
 

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8589/CBP-8589.pdf

Edited August 28, 2019 by welshbairn

[SweeperDee]

A few Tory MP’s are saying they will back a motion of no confidence.

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

2 minutes ago, SweeperDee said:

A few Tory MP’s are saying they will back a motion of no confidence.

Lose to win.  That's the plan.

[SweeperDee]

Lose to win.  That's the plan.

No bother Sun Tzu.

[ICTJohnboy]

11 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Where is this fantasy bollocks that the Queen is in any way going to disapprove of a Tory government enough to lift a finger?

 

 

She's obliged to rubber stamp BoJo's proposal to perogue Parliament. It's just one of the many constitutional absurdities that aflict this country.

[vikingTON]

13 minutes ago, MuckleMoo said:

Not sure this changes much to be honest.

There was already so little time left to do anything constructive through Parliment. All Boris is doing is playing to the gallery and poking the remainer MPs with a big stick.

He'll be hoping those on the remain side become utterly seething, turn to the electorate and say 'see, this is what I'm having to deal with' and then go for an election hoping for an increased majority.

The depressing thing is it'll probably work.

It reduces the chances of a parliamentary solution; on the other hand, it significantly raises the chance of a public disorder event cutting his government's legitimacy away from beneath him. I'm not suggesting that there's going to be some mass Remain rioting in the streets over some parliamentary recess, but If there are political protests against what is seen to be an anti-democratic power grab then it can easily develop into more serious social unrest against a government with a serious legitimacy problem, not least in London itself.

If Johnson plays his hand badly then a repeat of the Poll Tax scenes could be on the cards this autumn. 

[Granny Danger]

Not sure how this will play out but Bercow will do everything he can to ensure Parliament has a say.

I think he will give the opposition a huge amount of latitude and his role could prove pivotal.

The government losing a VoC might be the best option now but I think Swinson and a few others will still not cooperate.