Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[Daydream]

Some Tory MP was whining that Germany got all the dollars from the Marshall Plan after WW2, and Britain got bugger all. He was forced to apologise when it was pointed out that Britain got the lion's share.

3 lions’ share Shirley?

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

21 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Daniel Kawczynski. I seem to remember him refusing to retract or apologise when confronted with the facts on air.

What's the difference between Mr Sheen and Daniel Kawcynski?

 

 

 

 

 

One's Polish and the other one's a complete c**t.

I'm here all week...

[welshbairn]

Daniel Kawczynski. I seem to remember him refusing to retract or apologise when confronted with the facts on air.

Correct, thought he recanted but we're in a post truth world. His wiki page is revealing, caught trying to pimp out his research assistant. Think he's angling for some international position backed by the Saudis and the Law and Justice lot in Poland.

[Kuro]

On 19/07/2019 at 07:01, strichener said:

Played or not, it has taken the votes of remain politicians to get us to this point. 

It's interesting that you are now stating that MPs didn't know what they were voting for, looks like the leavers know what they are doing and the remainers are lacking the intelligence to see through this.  Goes against the narrative but interesting interpretation all the same.

Which politician were you caddying for when they let this slip? 

By putting forward a deal they would never vote for.  You're incredibly naive.  It will be no deal and that has been the intention all along.  Put a bet on it.

[strichener]

12 hours ago, Kuro said:

By putting forward a deal they would never vote for.  You're incredibly naive.  It will be no deal and that has been the intention all along.  Put a bet on it.

That ignores all the motions raised by remain MPs that have also failed to command a majority.  That is not being naive, it is reality which is probably also why you have such difficulty with it.

[trainspotter]

Either a very flattering picture or Ms Coombs is far too young to have been alive during most, if not all of, the halcyon days she pines for

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49053233

Still, as long as she knew what she was voting for.

[German Jag]

All said whilst sitting in a BMW.

[Kuro]

10 hours ago, strichener said:

That ignores all the motions raised by remain MPs that have also failed to command a majority.  That is not being naive, it is reality which is probably also why you have such difficulty with it.

They couldn't possibly if a government bent on no deal whips against them.  Its going to be no deal, put money on it.

[topcat(The most tip top)]

By putting forward a deal they would never vote for.  You're incredibly naive.  It will be no deal and that has been the intention all along.  Put a bet on it.

 

One problem with “intention all along” theories is that they presuppose that there was a coherent plan at all

 

[Kuro]

18 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 

One problem with “intention all along” theories is that they presuppose that there was a coherent plan at all

 

I think the EU Tax avoidance directives coming into force this year suggest there was.  That's what its really all about.

[Jacksgranda]

10 hours ago, Kuro said:

I think the EU Tax avoidance directives coming into force this year suggest there was.  That's what its really all about.

The ones that came in force on 1st January 2019? Rather prescient of the government to get a referendum bill passed in December 2015.

[Detournement]

Jo Swinson admits that if Leave wins a second referendum she would still oppose leaving the EU in Parliament. Demanding a referendum and simultaneously pledging to ignore the result if you lose

Campbell and Mandelson better tell her she's not meant to say that in public.

[Cerberus]

6 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Jo Swinson admits that if Leave wins a second referendum she would still oppose leaving the EU in Parliament. Demanding a referendum and simultaneously pledging to ignore the result if you lose

Campbell and Mandelson better tell her she's not meant to say that in public.

Brexit means Brexit m8.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

On 23/07/2019 at 11:32, trainspotter said:

Either a very flattering picture or Ms Coombs is far too young to have been alive during most, if not all of, the halcyon days she pines for

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49053233

Still, as long as she knew what she was voting for.

Hard to pick a favourite from the following:

Ms Coombs, who says she pines for the "halcyon days" of the 1940s and 50s, insists her vote for Brexit had "absolutely nothing to do with immigration", although she immediately adds: "We do need to have a limit on that."

and

"I think the politically correct brigade has made us almost petrified to say 'well, I'm English' because then you might be offending somebody," she says, adding, "I think people could do with stiffening up a tad and not be quite so ready to be offended.

[Cerberus]

Hard to pick a favourite from the following:
Ms Coombs, who says she pines for the "halcyon days" of the 1940s and 50s, insists her vote for Brexit had "absolutely nothing to do with immigration", although she immediately adds: "We do need to have a limit on that."
and
"I think the politically correct brigade has made us almost petrified to say 'well, I'm English' because then you might be offending somebody," she says, adding, "I think people could do with stiffening up a tad and not be quite so ready to be offended.

She’s got a point. I’m always offended when someone tells me they’re English.

[Kuro]

On 23/07/2019 at 22:48, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 

One problem with “intention all along” theories is that they presuppose that there was a coherent plan at all

 

Next, hedge fund managers have a particular hatred of the EU because of its drive to put US and UK funds under greater regulation – hedge funds are relatively small in the eurozone countries.  The EU’s new Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive has severely limited hedge fund operations while letting the banks off relatively scot free.  As a result, continental European banks have been able to nab clients (and their money) away from US and UK hedge funds. For this development, the hedge funds blame (rightly) the influence of the big German and French banks on member state governments, the European Central Bank and (above all) the European Commission.

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A major proponent of this line is Sir Paul Marshall, the pro-Brexit co-founder of Marshall Wace, one of Europe’s leading hedge funds.  Marshall argues that in France the ruling “énarques” (graduates of the elite Ecole Nationale d’Administration) are stuck in a revolving door between jobs in the big banks and jobs in government or the EU. According to Marshall, the result is that énarques like President Macron protect the interests of the big European banks.  Marshall, by the way, was a prominent Lib Dem, but he donated £100,000 to the Leave campaign.  Recently he made a bob or two out of shorting Carillion shares, helping put the company out of business.

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The antipathy of UK hedge funds to EU regulation means it is no surprise that prominent fund managers such as Crispin Odey and Michael Hintze support a hard Brexit and fund Boris.  Brexit is not a cry for help from the English underclass.  It is a carefully stage-managed campaign by global finance capital in the form of the hedge funds.  It is being orchestrated out of hedge fund self-interest and the greed of billionaires.  Boris Johnson is their front man.

[Kuro]

They now have their man in place, the cabinet they want. This is all going exactly as planned all along, it will definitely be no deal and was never going to be anything else.

[Kuro]

15 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

The ones that came in force on 1st January 2019? Rather prescient of the government to get a referendum bill passed in December 2015.

Do you think they weren't aware that was on the horizon?

[Tibbermoresaint]

12 minutes ago, Kuro said:

Next, hedge fund managers have a particular hatred of the EU because of its drive to put US and UK funds under greater regulation – hedge funds are relatively small in the eurozone countries.  The EU’s new Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive has severely limited hedge fund operations while letting the banks off relatively scot free.  As a result, continental European banks have been able to nab clients (and their money) away from US and UK hedge funds. For this development, the hedge funds blame (rightly) the influence of the big German and French banks on member state governments, the European Central Bank and (above all) the European Commission.

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A major proponent of this line is Sir Paul Marshall, the pro-Brexit co-founder of Marshall Wace, one of Europe’s leading hedge funds.  Marshall argues that in France the ruling “énarques” (graduates of the elite Ecole Nationale d’Administration) are stuck in a revolving door between jobs in the big banks and jobs in government or the EU. According to Marshall, the result is that énarques like President Macron protect the interests of the big European banks.  Marshall, by the way, was a prominent Lib Dem, but he donated £100,000 to the Leave campaign.  Recently he made a bob or two out of shorting Carillion shares, helping put the company out of business.

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The antipathy of UK hedge funds to EU regulation means it is no surprise that prominent fund managers such as Crispin Odey and Michael Hintze support a hard Brexit and fund Boris.  Brexit is not a cry for help from the English underclass.  It is a carefully stage-managed campaign by global finance capital in the form of the hedge funds.  It is being orchestrated out of hedge fund self-interest and the greed of billionaires.  Boris Johnson is their front man.

The EU's anti-hedge fund legislation has hit hedge funds so hard they've been busy transferring assets to the EU, Rees-Mogg's fund merely being one of many to do so.

You haven't thought this through, have you?

Edited July 25, 2019 by Tibbermoresaint
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[Kuro]

2 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

The EU's anti-hedge fund legislation has hit hedge funds so hard they've been busy transferring assets to the EU, Rees-Mogg's fund merely bring one of many to do so.

You haven't thought this through, have you?

The total value of hedge funds in the entire EU is around a tenth of that in the UK alone. Mogg opened a single fund in Dublin, he didn't transfer his fund there. This is what its all about, if you're too stupid to see what's right in front of you that's your problem. You can lead a horse to water...