John Lambies Doos Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 You can also add that some Labour voters voted Leave in the complete absence of any guidance from their own party. If Corbyn believes that campaigning for something will achieve some good, he should also realise that not campaigning or lukewarm campaigning will have the opposite effect. As for Corbyn wanting it all to go away - after Brexit, there will some other distraction that will get in the way of his great plans. There always will be.Not sure that Corbyn has the capability tbh. Yes he's a smart guy but as always been more suited as a Rebel as opposed to a leader. James Connolly he is not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 James Connolly was a traitor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I dislike Tom Watson and much of what he stands for but he’s spot on about Labour’s position on Brexit. Is there anyone in the PLP who is genuinely left wing, capable and has a more rational approach to Brexit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Tom Watson's position on Brexit, and indeed much else, is "whatever Corbyn thinks on it, I disagree." That's why he was anti-freedom of movement two years ago and is all for it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 James Connolly was a traitor.Careful now....@Tibbermoresaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 It's heartening to see the '#StandUp4Brexit #LeaveMeansLeave' and '#JC4PM2019' cranks finding a good deal of common ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 It's heartening to see the '#StandUp4Brexit #LeaveMeansLeave' and '#JC4PM2019' cranks finding a good deal of common ground.Bit harsh on @Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I dislike Tom Watson and much of what he stands for but he’s spot on about Labour’s position on Brexit. Is there anyone in the PLP who is genuinely left wing, capable and has a more rational approach to Brexit? Tom Watson claims today that this is not the time for Labour to be 'sitting on the fence'. Funny, I was sure someone on here was recently posting the exact opposite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Tom Watson claims today that this is not the time for Labour to be 'sitting on the fence'. Funny, I was sure someone on here was recently posting the exact opposite. Probably Tom Watson... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: 13 hours ago, Granny Danger said: I dislike Tom Watson and much of what he stands for but he’s spot on about Labour’s position on Brexit. Is there anyone in the PLP who is genuinely left wing, capable and has a more rational approach to Brexit? Tom Watson claims today that this is not the time for Labour to be 'sitting on the fence'. Funny, I was sure someone on here was recently posting the exact opposite. Watson, Adonis and the other right wingers are using the European elections and Brexit generally to try and splinter Corbyn's base. Brexit is a Tory issue until there is a GE. Labour need to stick with the 2017 position and the 2018 conference motion. Edited April 21, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Detournement said: Watson, Adonis and the other right wingers are using the European elections and Brexit generally to try and splinter Corbyn's base. Brexit is a Tory issue until there is a GE. Labour need to stick with the 2017 position and the 2018 conference motion. So they've tried a Customs Union and close alignment with the Single Market. Almost definitely failed. VONC and General Election, failed. So a second referendum it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Second referendum failed as well. All options are on the table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: Second referendum failed as well. All options are on the table. They voted against it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Watson, Adonis and the other right wingers are using the European elections and Brexit generally to try and splinter Corbyn's base. Brexit is a Tory issue until there is a GE. Labour need to stick with the 2017 position and the 2018 conference motion.I'm not remotely right wing but I'd willingly split Corbyn's base with a hatchet if I could. And whilst the Tories dragged the country into this Brexit mess, to paraphrase a charlatan of yesteryear we really now are all in this together. You increasingly come across as someone who values ideological purity above all else, a self-indulgent flaw which you must please excuse in the rest of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Watson, Adonis and the other right wingers are using the European elections and Brexit generally to try and splinter Corbyn's base. Brexit is a Tory issue until there is a GE. Labour need to stick with the 2017 position and the 2018 conference motion. They haven't stuck to the 2017 General Election manifesto or the 2018 conference position though. Not just in relation to a second referendum but also FoM and the SM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Here we go again then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Here we go again then. back to the grind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Probably rash and completely personal prediction, but May's withdrawal agreement will be ratified. She might not be Prime Minister when it happens. It might not be accompanied by the same political declaration. But the withdrawal agreement will be ratified. My best guess though is that it won't be by 31 October 2019. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Not my work likes. But 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Christian weirdo Widdecombe has come out in favour of the "get nige on telly" party 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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