welshbairn Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 My point was that I wouldn’t be surprised to see May’s deal coming back to Parliament before 12 April if she got indications that enough MPs had changed their minds. Unlikely but we’re in unlikely territory. Monday and Tuesday look like being very busy. Could be play offs unless Corbyn and May put up a joint proposal for Parliament to vote on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Telt. https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1114094310285246464 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 I presume Ruth Davidson will be punted now by the fisherman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 With a long and flexible extension, could we see EU elections where UK MEPs take up their seats for just a couple months? Or, even more surreal, we hold elections on 23 May, but leave before July, when they take their seats?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sooky said: With a long and flexible extension, could we see EU elections where UK MEPs take up their seats for just a couple months? Or, even more surreal, we hold elections on 23 May, but leave before July, when they take their seats?! The EU could be more sensible on this imo, say let the UK MEPs carry on till we leave, or hold elections in December say if we're still in. Mind you it's a bit of added pressure on Westminster to make its fucking mind up already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Rubin Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Some YouGov polling to peruse: On holding a new general election at this time: Support: 29%Oppose: 50% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April: No deal Brexit: 40% Remain in the EU: 36% Seek a further extension: 11% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April - with extension not an option: No deal Brexit: 44% Remain in the EU: 42% -- Britain leaving the European Union without any deal would be... A good outcome: 25% An acceptable compromise: 13% A bad outcome: 50% via YouGov, 31 Mar - 01 Apr 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said: Some YouGov polling to peruse: On holding a new general election at this time: Support: 29%Oppose: 50% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April: No deal Brexit: 40% Remain in the EU: 36% Seek a further extension: 11% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April - with extension not an option: No deal Brexit: 44% Remain in the EU: 42% -- Britain leaving the European Union without any deal would be... A good outcome: 25% An acceptable compromise: 13% A bad outcome: 50% via YouGov, 31 Mar - 01 Apr Compare the first 2 responses with the last one; who were they sampling? Neanderthals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said: Some YouGov polling to peruse: On holding a new general election at this time: Support: 29%Oppose: 50% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April: No deal Brexit: 40% Remain in the EU: 36% Seek a further extension: 11% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April - with extension not an option: No deal Brexit: 44% Remain in the EU: 42% -- Britain leaving the European Union without any deal would be... A good outcome: 25% An acceptable compromise: 13% A bad outcome: 50% via YouGov, 31 Mar - 01 Apr “Do you think leaving without a deal will be a bad outcome?” “Yes.” ”Will you vote to leave without a deal?” ”Yes.” ETA - beaten to it. Edited April 5, 2019 by Granny Danger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Surely May has little chance of being Prime Minister by 30 June. She cannot command her party or command The House. I do not see what the EU would gain by giving her an extension that is likely to simply be more prevarication and posturing from Westminster's various cliques. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Love it when the SNP does this sort of shithttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/05/nicola-sturgeon-tells-brexit-eu-citizens-in-scotland-you-are-welcome-here 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Monday and Tuesday look like being very busy. Could be play offs unless Corbyn and May put up a joint proposal for Parliament to vote on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Quote Westminster voting intention: CON: 32% (-4) LAB: 31% (-2) LDEM: 12% (+1) UKIP: 7% (+3) BREX: 5% (-) GRN: 4% (-) YouGov, 02 - 03 Apr Polling was a bit of an issue a week or so ago. Now we see the clowns of UKIP getting a boost out of the chaos and "BREX" the Farage vanity vehicle holding to a significant lump of voters. The Newport West by election had a bit more of a ho hum feel to it. Quote LAB: 39.6% (-12.7) CON: 31.3% (-8.0) UKIP: 8.6% (+6.1) PC: 5.0% (+2.6) LDEM: 4.6% (+2.4) GRN: 3.9% (+2.8) RNW: 3.7% (+3.7) ATWA: 0.9% (+0.9) SDP: 0.9% (+0.9) D&V: 0.8% (+0.8) FBM: 0.7% (+0.7) The stasis and indecision of the country is relatively evident from that polling. Labour very likely to be leaking support to pro Brexit parties (as are the Tories) which may be a more prosaic explanation for MPs signing letters than the more "colourful" we have been offered today. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, dorlomin said: Edited to add and @Granny Danger take your off topic hysteria and conspiracy theories to the appropriate thread started by your buddy Wisbit (maybe)\Detourment. Looks like you're on the wrong thread. Heids Gone is the place for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 The Tories taking Labour for mugs with an offer of a 'confirmatory referendum'.....basically taking May's deal and offering people a yes or no choice. That's not the 2nd referendum that the vast majority of Labour members want. Many people will be appalled if Corbyn's obvious hostility to the EU is used to help push through a Tory Brexit. Called it. Said they wouldn't offer a ballot with Remain on it. If that is the case it's going to be No from me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Some YouGov polling to peruse: On holding a new general election at this time: Support: 29%Oppose: 50% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April: No deal Brexit: 40% Remain in the EU: 36% Seek a further extension: 11% -- On what should happen if Britain has not agreed a deal by 12th April - with extension not an option: No deal Brexit: 44% Remain in the EU: 42% -- Britain leaving the European Union without any deal would be... A good outcome: 25% An acceptable compromise: 13% A bad outcome: 50% via YouGov, 31 Mar - 01 Apr Never underestimate the stupidity of Leave voters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 Called it. Said they wouldn't offer a ballot with Remain on it. If that is the case it's going to be No from me. Default No deal if you vote no then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Billy Rubin said: Britain leaving the European Union without any deal would be... A good outcome: 25% An acceptable compromise: 13% A bad outcome: 50% via YouGov, 31 Mar - 01 Apr Who in the world would actually find throwing the toys out the pram and running headlong of a cliff being any sort of "acceptable compromise" what was the harsher offer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaspianChris Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Rees-Mogg acting like an infant and throwing his toys out the pram at the thought of not getting his way over Brexit. He is such a horrible and unlikeable character as are all of his party, especially fellow hardliner Brexiteers. Hopefully the Conservatives are given the hammering they deserve at the next general election and suffer very heavy losses. Unfortunately I suspect that UKIP might benefit to an extent and pick up votes from disenchanted Conservative voters, that may have been unlikely previously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, CaspianChris said: Rees-Mogg acting like an infant and throwing his toys out the pram at the thought of not getting his way over Brexit. He is such a horrible and unlikeable character as are all of his party, especially fellow hardliner Brexiteers. Hopefully the Conservatives are given the hammering they deserve at the next general election and suffer very heavy losses. Unfortunately I suspect that UKIP might benefit to an extent and pick up votes from disenchanted Conservative voters, that may have been unlikely previously. As much as I despise FPTP, the Tories losing votes to UKIPy type parties could lead to them being decimated at an election. I think they are aware of this. Labour might lose votes in this way too but I suspect not as many and not with such devastating consequences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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